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#1 Cue

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 06:17 AM

I stumbled across a print of PESH that was sent to me Last December from a friend.
Having hydrated way too much cracked corn I figured this was a good opportunity to use it. This is also why I'm using pint jars, 26 of them so yeah I hydrated way too much.
First a little history of PESH. From what I understand, Cubes don't grow wild in Hawaii.
But there was a vendor that did business out of that state "Pacifica Exotica Spora", and this was their house strain. Hence PESH.
These jars were just inoculate Sunday afternoon and it is now Thursday morning so the spores germinated fast. I'm still not seeing any growth in the AT or PE6 that were inoculated at the same time.


Next, I would like to talk about cracked corn. IMHO it only gets a bad reputation from people that don't know how to prepare it. I hear shit like "Stay away from WBS with cracked corn".:bs:
All you have to do is soak it for 24hours, then drain. Now here is the secret :eusa_shhh as told to me by an experienced oyster and Cube grower. It has to be rinsed very well. Rinsed may not even be a strong enough work, "washed" may be better. I toss the CC into a bucket and stir it up. It will turn white, this is from the starch. Drain and repeat the wash over and over until the water remains clear. Then load and PC. Now asap after PCing shake the jars. You don't want any clumping. If you end up with it all stuck together in the bottom of the jar then you didn't rinse (wash) it good enough.
Advantages of CC
Its cheap. I can get a 50# bag for only $13.00.
Many inoculation points; almost as many as with WBS.

And now for a little myc porn.
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Edited by Cue, 18 July 2013 - 06:22 AM.


#2 NyShroomer

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 08:18 AM

Wow that's fast growth Cue...... looks great thanks for the lesson.......I wanted to know how to use CC cause it is cheap and efficient. That should clear it up for anyone it did for me. Thanks looking forward to seeing the end result?

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 09:07 AM

damn cue 26 extra jars worth of cc is allot. i thought Hawaii would be good for naturally occurring cubes. then again i dont really know there climate. thanks for putting up the history.

I've been wanting to try pesh for awhile but never ordered it so ill have to watch your grow instead lol. cant wait to see the fruits with your evil genius ness im sure theyll turn out great.

i always steered away from cc because of the starch thing and i can get ahold of some good wbs for cheap mostly milo/millet and a little sunflour seeds. and i like my no prep. but it sounds like cc would be waaay cheaper. might have to try it at some point if i can handle the prep time its hard to find time these days

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 11:11 AM

PESH treated me great through out the grow and the experience. I am confident you will be happy. Are you going to spawn these, or just fruit out of the jars?

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 11:29 AM

I think cracked corn would work very good.
I have seen very good results from those.
When you say they must be washed or cleaned very good that seems very logical as there is very much starch in those.
I always wash or clean all my grains in the same way you describes, ie. to the point where the water is completely clear after rinse and then wash one more time.
Its a very good thing to do and it always raises the chances of success.
Everybody should do this to all grains as a good procedure.

Good luck Cue.

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:06 PM

I think cracked corn would work very good.
I have seen very good results from those.
When you say they must be washed or cleaned very good that seems very logical as there is very much starch in those.
I always wash or clean all my grains in the same way you describes, ie. to the point where the water is completely clear after rinse and then wash one more time.
Its a very good thing to do and it always raises the chances of success.
Everybody should do this to all grains as a good procedure.

Good luck Cue.

Mateo

Very much starch in all corn. Just cracked it comes out of the kernel. Which brings to mind a discussion about rye, someone was claiming rye to be superior to corn because the nutrients in corn, being locked up inside the kernel meant that the nutrients were not as easily accessible to the mycelium. If this were true, the same probably could not be said about cracked corn.

@phsyceholic- Yeah I'll spawn these. I find that straight corn doesn't fruit very well.

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:12 PM

Your thread is putting this song in my head;)

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Nice stuff you got going there sir:heart:

Mahalo~Dani

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:32 PM

lol @ hydrated too much. = 26 pints
Love that cracked corn so many nock points.

#9 Cue

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:50 PM

The only thing worse than being bitten by a blue fly is those damn deer flies.

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 03:36 PM

Thank you for this post Cue. Looking good.

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 03:49 PM

I love corn too.. I have been spawning to wormcastings and straw. I just came acrossed a unlimited amount of of Hpoop been thinking about changing to it.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 04:41 AM

I now have 15 jars showing mycelium.
I found one jar with Trich. I hope it isn't the start of a trend.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:51 PM

Trich has been trendy in my neck of the woods. Hope you dont go through 40#s of triched out grains like I did

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 02:33 PM

Trich has been trendy in my neck of the woods. Hope you dont go through 40#s of triched out grains like I did

How about 50# of RGS that nothing will grow on. I'm guessing bacteria from not prepping it correctly, unless it was treated with fungicide.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 04:07 PM

That's what happened to my corn, half way through they all got the case of the green mean. That was what we were thinking Cue, treated with some sort of fungicide.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 04:14 PM

I have never had good luck with RGS. I tried growing on it about 20 years ago and it discouraged me so much I almost gave up. I have had trich in a few jars this grow but so far my tubs are clean. I'm spawning to rye berries with a little bit of this and that thrown in. Why would a fungicide cause trich? Are you saying that it prevented the fungi spores from growing, allowing the trich to take over? I'm just wondering why fungicide wouldn't stop trich.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 04:18 PM

You'd think proper pc'ing would kill any trich possibly in the seed ... Especially since rgs is such a tiny kernal. Seems more likely that trich came in through inoculation.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 05:05 PM

You'd think proper pc'ing would kill any trich possibly in the seed ... Especially since rgs is such a tiny kernal. Seems more likely that trich came in through inoculation.

Sickman got Trich in his corn. I didn't get anything including Trich in my RGS.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 05:08 PM

Yes, I think trich is environmental and usually gets its start at innoc, or improperly pasteurized sub or casing...JMO

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 05:13 PM

Ah I see, maybe it did have some potent fungicide in it.




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