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[3S1]

It incorporates well. Especially if you add mussels in as a water prefilter, Also, with enough sunlight you can have plants added in purely for fibre. Only issue is running choice maryj on a separate hydroponic setup during the flowering stage to max out the nutes. The water can then be diluted and re-used tho but its a messy step. I've yet to see an effective bridge to that...

[Seeker2be]

I will look into aquaponics to incorporate it in the  system.

[3S1]

Heh, sorry. Sometimes i get preachy. Good to hear though; at the moment my living space allows for 2 hobbies at the most and im pushing the limit. I'd love to see a truly (well, nearly) closed system with food both (flora and fauna) and medicines in the mix. Most interesting is to tack on solar cells and measure total actual cost - both monetary and temporally - vs. whats actually produced. I'm willing to bet, balls on the table, once properly tuned (or dialled in, whatever) the returns are massive compared to effort and cash involved. And that becomes the freex kernel of unplugging from supermarket heroism. Have you looked into the new super cheap solar cells? They come in 2 flavors; the ones with the coating barely a few molecules thick and another cut with some kind of ion cannon...

[Seeker2be]

All good thoughts.  Glad to be stimulating ideas to incorporate into my Tek for others to adopt.  We need to excellerate our collaboration of knowledge to get to where we need to go..  Today made neutraceuticals with Blue oyster and working on lions mane next.  In my small backyard we can supply 30% of our food and catch all rainwater so I am thinking all the time how I can become less dependent on the "supermarket heroism".

[JJ800M]

I can't see any of the pictures?

It just says "404 - NOT FOUND"...

[Seeker2be]

I am trying to resolve the picture problem with administrative help on Monday.  Words mean little without pictures. Bear with me.

[3S1]

Now, because i know you're not the kind of person to disparage another for their religion, race, country, grammar, ect... i trust once you look through these pages you'll see them for what they are; some of the best DIY get-your-hands-dirty-and-into-aquaponics pages on the interwebs.

 

http://www.affnanaquaponics.com/

[Seeker2be]

Moving me forward  for that I am grateful. thank you 3S1.  Will study the link.

[Seeker2be]

Thank you . Thank you. Thank you Hyphaenation for fixing the pictures on my post.

[hyphaenation]

On the topic of Hemp and the hobby ... I hope you don't mind me adding a bit about Hemp oil.

 

Benefits of Hemp Oil

- doesn't freeze

- can be sterilized and used to milk mycelium to freeze for storage

- can be used as inoculant , mycelium likes eating it (but not drown in it)

- water and oil don't mix (could be ways of cleaning mycelium)

- mycelium lives in Hemp oil when frozen (not water or other vegetable oils)

 

Backing up a bit I was looking for a way to freeze mycelium water for long-term storage. A person finds out pretty quick that mycelium in water freezes hard and the crystals sever all the mycelium and when you thaw them out after a month there is no life let in them. That got me to thinking about vegetable oils.

 

I already knew Hemp oil didn't freeze , by storing some in the freezer and seeing it stay liquid. Other oils I wasn't sure about so I tried Olive , Sunflower and Canola. All froze solid within the hour , except the Hemp ... It stayed completely unfrozen and viscous. This got the wheels of the brain turning. At the same time I had been working on my GLC milking teknology:

 

https://mycotopia.ne...ing-super-inoc/

 

If you look toward the end you see the final product for milking device. It works really awesome ...with water , to extract mycelium so I thought why not try sterilizing a half jar , hook it up to a colonized grain jar and milk the mycelium with the Hemp oil. It worked perfect and the oil was full of mycelium but the grains looked oil-drenched and I let it drip for a bit upside down.

 

Now I had a jar with mycelium oil and I put in the freezer for a month. Periodically I checked on it and it was not frozen. Meanwhile the oil-drenched milked Popcorn sat there for two weeks without recovering and I had written it off as drowned in oil. Low and behold on about day 14 it was sparkly whiter than ever. A good sign.

 

Another thing I tried was experimenting with Hemp oil mixed with mycelium water. You can shake the jar violently and they mix for a split second and then the Hemp oil shoots for the top. Only problem was it seems most mycelium stayed in the water instead of going into the oil. That's what lead me to trying to use Hemp oil itself to milk the mycelium.

 

The jar of oil in the freezer was taken out after a month and a syringeful was sucked out (big needle) and a small amount injected into a jar of sterilized grain. It was rolled around and took off right away and colonized in good time.

 

This is as far as I have taken it. You can get some Hemp oil and see for yourself to verify what I'm saying. Lots of work to be done to experiment with Hemp ... and Hemp oil.

 

Anyhow , thanks for allowing this. Appreciate your thread.

Edited by hyphaenation, 11 February 2014 - 11:28 PM.

[Seeker2be]

Thank you so very Much.  I have a lot of questions about this hemp oil and will  get back to you for clarification.  I enjoyed reading the post.!!!!!

[3S1]

Sorry to butt in. Hyph, would a touch of lemon juice in the hemp oil/water mix help the myc to crossover to the oil, do you think? Chefs use it to (somewhat) bridge the water/oil gap, might work here? Ph balance being a fine line though..

[hyphaenation]

I got into the 100% Hemp oil myc extraction and then I kinda lost interest in transferring myc from the water to the oil. 

[Seeker2be]

A link to the hemp oil extraction Tek. What about just grinding seeds to release a small amount of oil  to agar or subs?

Edited by Seeker2be, 12 February 2014 - 09:34 AM.

[SillyCone]

You are my new hero 

[Seeker2be]

A work in progress. Suggestions, Additions?

[Seeker2be]

Just went to an excellent talk at Puget Sound Mycology society about permaculture (without all the platitudes and virtue signaling)  and adding biochar into my tek has really made a difference in the fertility of my compost with my workers the red wigglers and the results with my plants thanks to the spent mycelial blocks

Edited by Seeker2be, 13 April 2023 - 03:57 PM.

[Arathu]

Nine year cycles..... .....and taking notes....

 

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Edited by Arathu, 13 April 2023 - 07:36 PM.

[Seeker2be]

The goal is to achieve Tierra Prieta.  https://en.wikipedia...iki/Terra_preta

[StrayDogWanders]

Nice thread.
Love the ideas
I’m going in similar a similar direction but wandering the street differently. I have not added the mush life into my mix yet but all in time.

I have been working with living soil style grows for my cannabis.

There is a thought that the quality of the end product of your worm castings can differ when starting with raw material fed into worm bins directly and a thermophilic compost made of those same raw material then fed to the worm bins to finish break down.

It is said that the quality improved greatly of the castings when the composted material was processed by the worms after.

I saw this hot box style composting system that looked kinda cool and thought it could have a large layer wood chip mulch layer with wine cap’s producing food and breaking the chips up and the compost in the middle would be breaking down and heating up the full compost bin all through winter in a green house or hoop house. After winter take that to the seasonal traditional compost pile for that year and then use that to feed the worms that winter and then into the living soil system which I want to start using oyster colonized straw as my mulch layers

I also have started a bokashi style composting bucket, lactoacid solutions and fermented some bran for all of the leaf / trimming waste that you get in those day to day and defoliation days. Pre compost to compost the composted materials that I am trying to compost.

Hope this was more addition to the thread than me rambling about what I am doing but I look forward to reading over this again and watching your ideas progress.

❤️StrayDog

Edited by StrayDogWanders, 17 April 2023 - 05:17 AM.