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#41 SteampunkScientist

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Posted 23 December 2014 - 12:36 PM

Thanks Happy - that sounds good to me!  HAve a Merry Christmas by the way... :biggrin:



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Posted 23 December 2014 - 02:07 PM

Same to you and yours, Steampunk. 

 

I have posted these on another thread but this was a pin in a jar that I lost when I tried to take out of jar.

 

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This is the matched pair to it, that also had a huge pin in the jar and I cased it about a month ago and it stalled out, but now is growing again.

 

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What are you using for fruiting chamber? Can you post pics of your progress?



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 01:14 PM

I got a large totally clear (top too) sterilite bin - 80 quarts.  When the time is right I will put in the perlite and then some form of airation/moisturation process.  Have not yet decided if I want to go simple: just drill holes and use "spritzer" or go all out and get a mister and aquarium air pump.  Right now I use a heating pad for warmth in the colonization chamber.  I may just use that for temp control.  Still thinking about it and the effort needed.

 

As for pics, well everything is still in the colonization chamber - not much change except steady but slow growth.

 

By the way, nice pics of your cakes! Thanks for the info on the pins too.


Edited by SteampunkScientist, 30 December 2014 - 01:16 PM.


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Posted 30 December 2014 - 07:39 PM

Soak perlite in salt water, drain and use wet. It will supply sterile moist air for quite a while. Does not attract contams or become part of that disturbance. Tin foil barrier is sufficient, or plastic shoe box. Had quite a few aborts, but these were seriously defective cakes to begin with. Another batch on the way through real soon. 


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 01:57 PM

I have not seen the tinfoil used that way before - usually just roll the cakes in verm and set on the perlite.  I also saw a case where somone added a 2" diameter by 1" tall peice of white pvc pipe as a stand.  Interesting.



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 03:12 PM

Since the perlite is soaked in salt, I thought it might be good to separate. I think wherever I got that suggestion from did the tin foil. I have to figure out how to put in posting reference links.

 

Next year, may we all be considering having a huge mushroom fest for New Years with shopping bags full of dried product.



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Posted 08 January 2015 - 01:19 PM

Next year, may we all be considering having a huge mushroom fest for New Years with shopping bags full of dried product.

Sooo.... We will be having that festival in hyperspace somehwere? Shopping bags full of dried product.... That made me smile....

 

 

Anyway I got me 2 fully colonized jars so I am going to use your method with the addition of adding some hydrgen peroxide to the water/salt/perlite just to keepdown any of the white fuzzy mold crap that sometimes gets into the colony box.  The pins are the size of quarters almost....

 

Hopefully those other jars will catch up soon and I can put them in as well.


Edited by SteampunkScientist, 08 January 2015 - 01:28 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2015 - 01:27 PM

I don't mind consuming a little vermiculite but ONE grain of perlite? No thank you.



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Posted 08 January 2015 - 01:42 PM

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I don't know if you can see from these, but they were covered with white fuzz, and I just started ignoring it, because the shrooms that grew are getting so big they are toppling the cake over.

 

They are twice that big this morning, and even more fuzz.

 

It has cause some aborts, but these cakes have been growing and producing, minimally, since October.



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Posted 08 January 2015 - 01:45 PM

are you 100% that the fuzz is myc?



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Posted 08 January 2015 - 02:41 PM

No, I am pretty sure the fuzz is something else. Not sure what, but I dunk and rolled in verm and reset clean, and it grew back, also grew shrooms. It didn't attack the two other cakes in the fc. I have been watching, and am keeping it separate, sort of while it does it's thing. As soon as these two Mambos grow out, I will dunk and roll again, it temporarily gets rid of white shit, whatever it is. The shrooms tend to grow elsewhere on the block, and the white doesn't seem to grow ON them.

 

Note: the pic only shows one other, there are two in there now. All four have been together since October. Kind of started as a contam experiment. 


Edited by happy4nic8r, 08 January 2015 - 02:43 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2015 - 02:47 PM

do yourself a favor and spray it with h2o2, i'm guessing cobweb, which is easily dealt with.. if it is cobweb, it'll disintegrate instantly 



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Posted 08 January 2015 - 08:53 PM

The white fuzz is probably Cobweb mold or Dactylium Mildew (Hypomyces sp.)

 

H2O2 is your friend! That is why I am not dealing with any of this because I use it in every step in one form or another.

 

And that is a greate segue into my next set of pics!  I have pulled my 2 fully colonized cakes into the growing chamber and I used Happy's trick of salt water - but I also added H2O2 to the perlite as I mixed it up.  Anyway here are the pics - Oh and one other thing...

 

I had about a half dozen or so little pins that had poked through the top layer of the verm in the colonization jars - I kept them of course... for "Quality Control" if you get my meaning... heh heh...

 

Anyway, the pics.

 

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Posted 12 January 2015 - 06:15 AM

All the cakes are in the growing chamber now...  Yeah... I will get pics as soon as I see growth.  Anyway, as it turns out, all but one of the cakes were fully colonized but had left a thin layer of "uncolonized" substrate on the side of the plastic jars that made them look like there were not fully grown!  Weird.  On container actually had a small section that it had stopped growing in but was still putting out pins.  In these cases I just washed off the unused substrate, soaked all cakes for 6 hours, and then rolled in verm.  No signs of contamination.  I am very please with how this experiment has gone so far...

 

I have high (no pun intended) hopes for these as they are growing on Quinoa which is a "super food".


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 06:51 PM

OK.... All cakes are growing nicely, some far outstripping others. The fruits look more like pe then gt. Weird that. They are bluing quit readily. Picking and drying. Another oddity... The dried fruits smell like honey a bit... No trip report yet. Will let you of course. It is expected that second flush will be more consistent size wise after a good soaking. A few cakes have swallowed the verm layers completly with mycellium these seem to be the more active growers. Contamination has not been a problem either. Quite happy with this tek.

Edited by SteampunkScientist, 25 January 2015 - 06:53 PM.

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 07:00 PM

OK.... All cakes are growing nicely, some far outstripping others. The fruits look more like pe then gt. Weird that. They are bluing quit readily. Picking and drying. Another oddity... The dried fruits smell like honey a bit... No trip report yet. Will let you of course. It is expected that second flush will be more consistent size wise after a good soaking. A few cakes have swallowed the verm layers completly with mycellium these seem to be the more active growers. Contamination has not been a problem either. Quite happy with this tek.

sounds good! got any mush porn? we need pics and lots of them


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 07:42 PM

Definitely want some pics of this, sounds great!!!

 

This is what it's all about.

 

I had a good bunch happen as well...off newspaper no less..

 

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so we're all eatin good, huh!!

 

mine are still drying so no road reports yet.


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Posted 27 January 2015 - 07:22 PM

As Promised...

 

This is after a couple of harvests... Note the inconsistency between cakes.  I believe this would have been mitigated if I had used some gypsum in the mix.

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And some closeups

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Soon the rest will be picked and these cakes soaked for a good 12 hours.  Then we shall see how the next flush does.


Edited by SteampunkScientist, 27 January 2015 - 08:33 PM.

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 07:10 PM

So...

 

Today for some reason there were 2 massive fruits that were at least 4 times as big as everything else.  Just out of the blue.  I am continually surprised by how this tek is turning out.  Quinoa is truly and interesting grain...

 

Any commentary by those who have been watching the thread? I am looking for constructive commentary on how to improve this tek, and if anyone is planning to riff off it or not.  

 

I have to say, Hydrogen Peroxide is a real friend in keeping out contamination - I have been able to forgo many of the more intense and difficult steps that ultra pure teks call for.  Even with Coffee in the mix which I have heard is notorious for contamination issues.  I believe the Honey has also helped as it is a natural anti-bacterial agent.


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Posted 28 January 2015 - 07:22 PM

nice looking cakes

 

I'm with you on h2o2.. fun stuff..


Edited by catattack, 28 January 2015 - 07:24 PM.





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