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#21 torn2bits

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Posted 02 December 2014 - 07:04 PM

How did the cubes fruit doing the lazlo tek ?
I'm interested in this newspaper idea of his

Edited by torn2bits, 02 December 2014 - 07:06 PM.

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#22 CatsAndBats

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Posted 02 December 2014 - 07:15 PM

pretty great, and the weird thing is I was spraying it with abandon thinking they were oysters, so misting was cool, and bleach was fine too..

 

so much that I went with the same tek for this grow:

 

https://mycotopia.ne...paperback-grow/


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Posted 02 December 2014 - 07:31 PM

if you could give us a dry weight and let us know how much grain was used that would be great.



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Posted 02 December 2014 - 07:57 PM

if you could give us a dry weight and let us know how much grain was used that would be great.

Well the original "oyster grow" was a fully colonized half pint of cube spawn layered with a thursday edition of the daily news, which (I am spitballing here) was a 1:1 ratio. I wasn't really into weighing the flush as it was "bonus" material. However the paperback grow is approx 5g of colonized popcorn to the paperback (which should be fully colonized in about 3 weeks) and I will post exact weights of.

 

strain: large fruit (paperback)

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#25 kcmoxtractor

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 12:37 AM

i was wondering a dry weight on the harvest, not the grain lol. wondering how efficient

the biomass was more than anything. i normally get at least an oz per quart of grain for 

cube grows, more like 2-3 and up to 4 since i have learned more about fungi.

 

i'm particularly interested if this same yield ratio is possible using paper as a substrate.


Edited by kcmoxtractor, 03 December 2014 - 12:38 AM.

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 05:27 AM

Any experiences using shredded paper?

I'm currently using poo/straw but I like the idea of recycling the paper from my paper shredder.

And if I use paper couldn't I just pasteurize it in the oven like I do now?



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Posted 03 December 2014 - 08:53 AM

Don't have any shredded paper experience but the myc is tearing through the old ass book.

 

tractor, I will keep you updated.. or start a side by side..


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Posted 03 December 2014 - 08:54 AM

Any experiences using shredded paper?

I'm currently using poo/straw but I like the idea of recycling the paper from my paper shredder.

And if I use paper couldn't I just pasteurize it in the oven like I do now?

 

taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper

 

Paper is a thin material produced by pressing together moist fibers, typically cellulose pulp derived from wood, rags or grasses, and drying them into flexible sheets.



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Posted 03 December 2014 - 11:59 AM

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They also love the laundry basket tek. These were grown indoors outside of my GH. All four sides fruited well but this was the best side and the only pic I have of that grow. All in all I had so many mushrooms, I had to give some away! They were good though.

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#30 CatsAndBats

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 12:12 PM

i was wondering a dry weight on the harvest, not the grain lol. wondering how efficient

the biomass was more than anything. i normally get at least an oz per quart of grain for 

cube grows, more like 2-3 and up to 4 since i have learned more about fungi.

 

i'm particularly interested if this same yield ratio is possible using paper as a substrate.

 Yes but I want to get what is equal to a qt jar grain hydrated to the newspaper.. Then weigh the dry yield.


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Posted 03 December 2014 - 02:58 PM

that's my basis of comparison, one quart of grain. just easy for others to replicate.



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Posted 03 December 2014 - 03:11 PM

I understand, I have to hydrate some grain, determine the weight, and then match it with field capacity newspaper I think.. Then we can more accurately judge the yields IMO. Thoughts?



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Posted 03 December 2014 - 03:18 PM

just check the dry weight after a flush. IME the dry grain that will make up a quart

of WBS weighs about 300 grams, quart of popcorn weighs about 400, wheat and

rye fall in between those two numbers.



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Posted 03 December 2014 - 03:36 PM

I will report back..



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Posted 08 December 2014 - 11:36 AM

gave it a 24hr dunk after a good scrape and picked all aborts.. will report back.



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Posted 12 December 2014 - 01:52 PM

I got my answer here to the question I posted in my thread. Progress reports, please. My luck, I'd be attempting to grow cubes or pans and get crimini's!!



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Posted 12 December 2014 - 01:55 PM

trashed it, it stalled even after 2 dunks..



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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:08 PM

you did scrape it and remove all the pins, it had to re-pin. a cubensis

culture produces all of the primordia for two flushes at once. between

the second and third flush it produces more primordia.

 

primordia formation takes 6-10 days, so what you thought was stalling

might have actually been recovery from removing the primordia. that's

why I don't scrape or remove anything between the 1st and 2nd flush.


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:19 PM

It showed no growth or change of any kind after more than a week. I trash stuff before it contaminates (usually past the 2nd or 3rd flush though)

 

I have a half pint of spawn ready to go, Let's try it again!


Edited by catattack, 12 December 2014 - 02:42 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:41 PM

I have a half pint of spawn ready to go, Let's try it again!






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