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Poll: Wild Bird Seed (WBS) - Sunflower Seeds, Keep 'Em Or Leave 'Em?

When preparing WBS, should/do you:

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#1 Myst_Hunter

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 06:20 PM

Got a preference? Why go one way over another?

 

I've heard the theroies but it doesn't seem to matter too much either way from what I've seen.

 

Anyone has a convincing argument/experience one way or the other?


Edited by Myst_Hunter, 21 November 2014 - 07:09 PM.


#2 TurkeyRanch

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 07:09 PM

I didn't vote, because my option isn't up there. I say leave them in if your lazy, or take them out if you feel like it, both work.

The seeds can hold water inside them, which can ( but not always) throw off the water content in the jars. This is why some people say to remove them. I have done all the above, removed them all, removed most of them, and not bothered to remove any at all. It all worked for me.

If you leave them in, drain it really well, and maybe toss a tablespoon or two of dry vermiculite in the bottom of each jar before you load the jars to soak up any xtra water and it should be good to go!

Edited by TurkeyRanch, 21 November 2014 - 07:10 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 08:43 PM

i'd toss the seeds, they can and will cause issues. they are really easy to separate, they float while the other 'alive' grains sink.. cept dry/dead milo n twigs, which float to the top, i toss those also. just my 2 cents


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 08:49 PM

I toss all floaters including the sunflower seeds.

 

If you soak the wbs the sunflower is going to float anyways and its pretty easy to skim them out , especially in a small bucket.

 

Sunflower Seed/ Trash experiment

https://mycotopia.ne...ash-experiment/


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#5 papa_legba

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:09 PM

ive always kept them.



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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:11 PM

I do "no prep" with WBS,

so no floaters. I use "as is".


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:19 PM

one thing i like to add, is there is several brands of bird seed out there, some have small sunflower, some very large sunflower, some have sticks and small gravel, the walmart cheap stuff is the worst, so definitely clean those, but in the more expensive WBS, they have less unwanted, and usually smaller sunflower. Penington makes a good bag, but costs a few bucks more , worth it IMO. my point is, it all depends on the WBS quality.


Edited by wharfrat, 21 November 2014 - 10:21 PM.

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#8 roscoe

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:30 PM

I leave em.

 

I have never seen it done but I would be willing to bet you could grow good healthy myc on nothing but sunflower seeds.

 

someone should do an experiment to put this age old question to rest.


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:33 PM

I leave em.

 

I have never seen it done but I would be willing to bet you could grow good healthy myc on nothing but sunflower seeds.

 

someone should do an experiment to put this age old question to rest.

scroll back up and click the links in hyphs post.. the question has been answered



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Posted 21 November 2014 - 11:06 PM

Ah so it has, thank you for the heads up.

 

It is interesting that a multi-spore did not colonized the sunflower seeds alone but a G2G of live tissue had no problem colonizing just sunflower seeds. 

 

Looks like I will be leaving them in still.


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 11:37 PM

Ah so it has, thank you for the heads up.

 

It is interesting that a multi-spore did not colonized the sunflower seeds alone but a G2G of live tissue had no problem colonizing just sunflower seeds. 

 

Looks like I will be leaving them in still.

That's why you are you and i love you for that.. wheat berries are better anyway! cheers brothernaut!


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#12 CatsAndBats

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 09:31 AM

I give the sunflower seeds to the birds, squirrels and deer.


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Posted 23 November 2014 - 12:49 PM

I removed them the first few times and then just started leaving them in. I had no issues leaving them in but i switched to oats only after going through 1 40 lb bag of WBS.

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 02:36 AM

I keep them cuz I am lazy. I do a lot of no prep when short on time
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Posted 26 November 2014 - 12:51 PM

this belongs in polls, moved it to the appropriate forum.

 

i use a brand of WBS that doesn't have sunflower seeds.


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Posted 26 November 2014 - 12:56 PM

love your avatar kmox!



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Posted 26 November 2014 - 12:58 PM

i figured with the holidaze coming why not bring the family out to sing christmas carols?


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#18 Cue

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 08:13 AM

http://sanangelo.tam...oduction-guide/

 

There are 30 or more known diseases of sunflowers, but only 10 are commonly seen. Of these, only six (downy mildew, rust, Sclerotinia stalk and head rot, Verticillium wilt, Phoma black stem, and Alternaria leaf and stem spot) threatens sunflower yield

 

Verticillium Wilt

Verticillium wilt may be a serious disease on lighter soils in areas where sunflowers have been grown for several years and on land with a history of Verticillium wilt.

Verticillium wilt shows as a mottling of the leaves, beginning on the lower leaves and progressing slowly upward. Leaves showing mottling soon dry completely. Symptoms usually are not observed until flowering, however, under severe conditions they may occur as early as the 6-leaf stage.

Verticillium wilt is a persistent soil-borne and seed-borne disease that will remain in the soil for several years and when once established cause some yield loss each time a susceptible crop is planted.

Verticillium dahliae, the fungus inciting wilt of sunflowers, has a wide host range and causes wilt of several other cultivated plants and weeds. In the principal sunflower producing area of the U.S., potatoes are the other important prime host of Verticillium. Consequently, sunflowers and potatoes should not be grown in the same rotation, especially if wilt has been previously observed in either crop in the rotation.

 

I'm not sure how important this is with the WBS being PCed.

But I thought that it might be food for thought.


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#19 CatsAndBats

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 09:42 AM

^^^ nice



#20 roscoe

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 10:15 AM

Every grain or seed (all plants) has its fair share of pathogens, weather they be fungi, bacteria, virus, viroid, oomycete, phytoplasma, protozoa, or nematode. A good number only affect live tissue while others can be a concern post harvest, 99.whatever% are killed by sterilization.


Edited by cyclenaut, 27 November 2014 - 10:16 AM.





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