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Coco Coir substrate with coffee supplement - A 4 part tek


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#21 Heirloom

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 07:23 PM

hey peace frog , its hard to say why people have better luck with some mixes and
others fall short.

I had trouble with both coir and straw in the beginning. I now have
better luck with straw and coir after more work with them.

I have never used coffee
grounds but I am going to try.

I am going to try some straight straw grows, using cold pasteurization using hydrated lime or soap.

saving my coffee grounds for a grow.


 


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Posted 22 December 2014 - 09:13 PM

Yea I hear what your saying. What works for some may not be the best way of cultivating for everyone else. I have tried (with cubes only) several different trials and teks with coir based substrate and never really had a great flush. I have read about some great flushes on coir including wharfrat's post that speak to the contrary of my experience. Just never found "my grove" with it so to speak.
I think you will like the straight straw grows. They can give you some great yields IME.
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Posted 25 December 2014 - 01:19 PM

That's great I have a zombie tub pinning now. Had to do trich surgery on it but it looks fine now.

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Posted 25 December 2014 - 06:04 PM

That's great I have a zombie tub pinning now. Had to do trich surgery on it but it looks fine now.

bummer on the trich, you definitely need more FAE . get more holes in the tub, especially at the sub surface, clear out the co2.

thats why i prefer the mist n fan


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Posted 26 December 2014 - 08:10 PM

nice complete idea wharf, thanks for this!

 

you put in measurements for all the ingredients and pictures of the whole process.

archive material - coir, peat, and vermiculite.


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#26 wharfrat

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 09:06 PM

nice complete idea wharf, thanks for this!

 

you put in measurements for all the ingredients and pictures of the whole process.

archive material - coir, peat, and vermiculite.

Thank you brother.. i do have a couple things i would like to include that i feel i left out, but other then that i'm happy to post the method to my madness



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Posted 26 December 2014 - 09:57 PM

Very nice.

You can also add fret to your water. My last grow which can be read on here was similar.

Very good read.

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Posted 27 December 2014 - 12:27 PM

Question:
Why no poo?
I ask for potency sake,have you ever compaired the difference between use of manure?

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Posted 27 December 2014 - 01:59 PM

Question:
Why no poo?
I ask for potency sake,have you ever compaired the difference between use of manure?

yes i've used cmc and straw, no noticeable diff in quantity or quality.


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Posted 27 December 2014 - 02:42 PM

Right on... BTW Badass Tai's
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Posted 27 December 2014 - 10:56 PM

I keep coming back to see those.
Man they are perfect size.
If all else is equal quality wise these this Thai strain it a score
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Posted 27 December 2014 - 11:26 PM

How long after I case should I see start seeing pins?? Fruiting around 78

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Posted 27 December 2014 - 11:40 PM

How long after I case should I see start seeing pins?? Fruiting around 78 degrees

average 10 days, but up to 14, i've even seen 21 days.. just keep fanning 3 times a day, or more.. i mist once a day until they pin then twice a day, every other fanning in my case.


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Posted 28 December 2014 - 09:34 AM

Great. so mist the sub 1xday and then once i see pins do i keep misting the sub or just the walls of the chamber? And also will the whole surface of the casing layer colonize with mycilium before fruiting really begins? 



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Posted 28 December 2014 - 04:40 PM

Great. so mist the sub 1xday and then once i see pins do i keep misting the sub or just the walls of the chamber? And also will the whole surface of the casing layer colonize with mycilium before fruiting really begins? 

usually IMO the casing layer will not colonize, that's why we use a non-nutritive casing material.. it's strictly there to retain moisture. and yes i continue to mist the sub, and misting the mush wont hurt, just give them a good fanning after you mist.



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Posted 28 December 2014 - 05:02 PM

Nice as always Wharfrat!!!
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Posted 28 December 2014 - 05:08 PM

Nice as always Wharfrat!!!

thank you brother, that means a lot to me :biggrin:


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Posted 28 December 2014 - 05:14 PM

Lipa Yai.. second flush (coir/coffee)

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 10:00 PM

Nice! I'm seeing mycilium popping through the casing..

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 04:45 PM

I used this tek for a small tub, colonizing now.. 






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