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#141 Juthro

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Posted 28 March 2015 - 11:40 PM

Dude, we are all ancient.. I'm 41
 
TR has like 30 grand kids, @juthro is 80yrs..


No, I just look and feel that old.

Alder, was a seaman about the time that I was too (but a different kind), lol.
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#142 TVCasualty

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Posted 31 March 2015 - 01:57 PM

 

Try doing some shrooms now. Maybe you would find the answer to the original question here.
 

 

After a long break from psychedelics or when one is at a major crossroads in life and trying to decide which way to go, I'd agree with that suggestion (and would add that for serious exploration and growth, don't just go big, go HUGE dosage-wise).

 

I've had so much positive reinforcement whenever I've taken that approach (as have friends of mine) that it's become my standard prescription for myself (and friends) when we know we need something more than recreation from the experience. I have a couple trips like that per year, and some years those are the only doses I take.

 

I like at least 6 grams (cracker-dry) of cubensis, preferably all aborts. There's not much point in going higher than 8, unless you're taking meds that increase your tolerance or are otherwise a "hard head." Above 8 grams it's just a waste since you'll be as high as mushrooms can get you at around 7 grams (IMO).

 

Anyway, crunching-up the 6-gram dose into a shot glass and giving it a 20-minute lime-juice soak before consuming it will leave your ego a smoking crater in about 15-20 minutes from taking the shot. The answer to my Big Question is usually answered within the first 45 minutes. And it's usually over (more or less) in 5-6 hours (thanks to the lime juice).

 

Anything less than an ego-obliterating dose puts us at risk of an ego struggle since lower doses are not going to be enough to shatter it completely, just scare the shit out of it. So it tries to regain control, and the struggle of a frightened and confused (but tenacious!) ego to regain control of a situation that is utterly beyond concepts like "control" is one of the precursors to a Very Bad Trip, as it's usually described by those who endure one.

 

In other words, most bad trips are not a function of taking too much, they're a function of not taking enough! Or taking enough but in the wrong setting, with the wrong people, or while breaking some other fundamental rule of Going Big.

 

Conversely, extremely low doses are also not generally a problem. It's the no-man's (or woman's)-land of mid-range doses where the majority of bad or unpleasant experiences are had, at least in my experience. So your wife would likely be fine taking 3/4 of a gram, or maybe even 2 grams (on the low side). Or she could take 6+ grams and probably be fine too, assuming a very conducive setting (I like suggesting to novice or fearful trippers that they trip wherever they'd feel comfortable hanging out for 8 hours completely naked since the paranoia of thinking "I'm tripping too hard!" seems to stem from our perceived vulnerability, like our mind is naked for all to see). But stay the Hell away from mid-range doses (emphasis on "Hell").

 

Or just take 40-50 grams of dried San Pedro skins. For someone new to tripping or who has had bad experiences in the past, mescaline may well be a better choice, frankly. 


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Posted 02 April 2015 - 11:52 PM

I have on many occasions and this and shrooms are what help get me through the night.  Here are the Three Nipples of Joy.

 

 

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 08:46 AM

Keep your mind open to the idea that she learned something about herself or threesomes in general and just plain doesn't want to go there anymore. People change over time. Interests change.  Values change.

pharmer said it all.

dont push the limits, youre going to regret it.

if you get to know yourself youll find out whos next to you and why you are there too. it takes some time.

imho


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#145 Soliver

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 12:22 PM

Threesomes & group sex pretty much never work out well in real life. 

 

We had a member here, ten years or so ago, who posted all kinds of uber-sexxy pics of his wife & their insanely sexy neighbor naked, etc.  All of the guys here responded with "you lucky bastard - how did you pull that off?"  Just thinking about it makes me hate that lucky fucker all over again ... but then again ...

 

I figured it'd be a matter of time and then - bam - everyone's splitting up, he's in here begging admin to pull the pictures off the server, etc., etc.  Per usual, it didn't work out well for the poor fella. 

 

The beauty of the 'net is that there's free porn for pretty much any "deviant" desire you may have.  I'd suggest you take your interests into your own hands, if you'll excuse the innuendo, and stick with the tried & true "one love."

 

Sometimes fantasy is best left untested ... ever see a porn star before they paste on the makeup & stuff? 

 

Like TV said (well, not exactly) - sometimes a naked lunch is in order.  My best trips have often been the most terrifying 45 minutes of my life followed by relaxed acceptance and months of benefit.

 

:)

 

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#146 Alder Logs

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 01:03 PM

About the time you get all the wives you want and everything seems about right, the goddamned eunuchs union goes on strike and is looking for a raise. 


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#147 Soliver

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 01:25 PM

And there's no bargaining with a damned eunuch ... what's left to take away?



#148 Alder Logs

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 01:30 PM

Nutz!

 

Errr, forget about a raise too.


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Posted 03 April 2015 - 01:57 PM

Threesomes & group sex pretty much never work out well in real life. 

 

We had a member here, ten years or so ago, who posted all kinds of uber-sexxy pics of his wife & their insanely sexy neighbor naked, etc.  All of the guys here responded with "you lucky bastard - how did you pull that off?"  Just thinking about it makes me hate that lucky fucker all over again ... but then again ...

 

I figured it'd be a matter of time and then - bam - everyone's splitting up, he's in here begging admin to pull the pictures off the server, etc., etc.  Per usual, it didn't work out well for the poor fella. 

 

I remember that (and who it was, but I'll leave that part out). It was like the plot of a porn flick; he and his very attractive wife either moved in next door to another very attractive woman who already had a very attractive girlfriend or the other woman and her girlfriend moved in next door to them. One night while hanging out together things just sort of "came together" (so to speak) and they all got along pretty well for a while (right up until they didn't; I guess that's why porn ends when it does, lol).

 

I've known people who got involved in similar scenes, and have heard one guy claiming that the scene he'd put together was "true love, something really deep and, like, special and not just about the sex" (involving himself and four other much-younger women who got together in every combination and permutation 4 women and one man allows). Then the MDA ran out, and the "true love" evaporated with it, much to everyone's surprise.

 

He didn't like it when I suggested that if he'd been doing MDA every day for a couple of months while single (like he'd been doing with his girlfriends) that he might've felt the same way about his plumbing after taking a really nice, hot shower; "That was intense, man! My shower truly understands me -and my needs- like nobody or nothing else I've ever met, and our love for each other is beyond words and like, totally real, dude!" I imagine he'd even fall in love with a freakin' bicycle if he ever managed to dress one up like a schoolgirl... :rolleyes:


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Posted 03 April 2015 - 02:08 PM

 

I imagine he'd even fall in love with a freakin' bicycle...

 

 

"...animate, inanimate, it didn't matter."

~Lord Buckley

 

 

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It looks like Lord Buckley's kid is a dick.

 

 

Singer Jimmy Buffett, known for hits like “Margaritaville” and “Havana Daydreaming,” has been named in an $11-million suit alleging that one of his songs was taken from a dramatic monologue by the late Richard (Lord) Buckley, an entertainer during the 1930s and 1950s. Buckley’s son, Dick Buckley Jr., charged in a suit filed last Thursday in US District Court in Los Angeles that Buffett infringed on his father’s copyright. Buckley charged that Buffett took parts of his father’s monologue from “A Tribute to Buckley” and claimed it as his work in “God’s Own Drunk.”

 

 

The Lawyer and The Asshole

This lawyer and this asshole,
Out in California,
Told me I can’t sing “God’s Own Drunk”
For you no more
I hate being told what I can and can’t do
So here’s a little message ’til I even up the score
Kiss my ass Mr. Buckley
Hey something here’s wrong
You want all the money
And you never wrote the song
I bet your poor daddy’s
Rolling over in the ground
So I’ll just sing my own good tunes
They still get me around
Kiss my ass Mr. Buckley
Hey, something here’s very wrong
You want all this money
And you never even wrote the song
I just bet your daddy used to beat you as a kid
If I find you in L.A. I’ll repeat just what he did
Kiss My Ass, Kiss My Ass, Kiss My Ass


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Posted 03 April 2015 - 06:59 PM

I figured I'd leave identity out of it as well - discretion being the better part of valor and all that ...

 

MDMA can certainly make you fall in love with 4 young chicks, the shower, the cool tile next to the shower.

 

Sex is complex enough without inviting friends.



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 01:46 AM

Look, she's done with them before. I wouldn't care about time management. that's half the point, to watch her with a girl. I don't know. Maybe this life just ain't for me. Just stick to expensive porn, and live my whole life with a hidden animosity for my lover? I guess that works for everybody else huh?

Maybe she would be more down if you invited another guy? Did you ever think of that?

 

Why do 90% of your posts involve you feeling sorry for yourself in a situation with a girl?

 

Get yo head checked kid


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#153 TVCasualty

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Posted 04 April 2015 - 08:14 AM

I figured I'd leave identity out of it as well - discretion being the better part of valor and all that ...

 

MDMA can certainly make you fall in love with 4 young chicks, the shower, the cool tile next to the shower.

 

Sex is complex enough without inviting friends.

 

It was actually some incredible, 99.999% pure (as tested) MDA.

 

I got some of it, too since MDA had always been on my bucket list. A gram came as a single large crystal that you could actually see through; it wasn't just translucent, it was transparent! That shit is MDMA for grownups, at least IMO. MDA doesn't flood your system with serotonin (thereby depleting it fairly quickly) which is why his chemical love-fest lasted until the MDA ran out.

 

If it had been MDMA, it would've lasted until their brains had been rendered into very depressed, smoking craters that would take a couple of years to recover from. MDA also doesn't inhibit erections and lasts a hell of a lot longer than MDMA (I fucked up big-time the first time I tried it since I lacked a milligram scale and did my homework after taking the booster dose, which was my bad). Turns out I took ~0.250 g then an hour later boosted with another ~0.250g, which ended up lasting 56 straight hours but it was so clean I enjoyed the whole experience and there was no "crash" at all, MUCH to my surprise (after the 45th hour or so I thought I was in for some hell for sure).

 

A "full-spectrum dose" of pure MDA is listed in Pharmacotheon (Ott) as 0.080 g (oops!). I wrote a 35-page single-spaced letter to my mom as it came on (typing non-stop for ~16 hours) before realizing I was so far out there, but the stuff was so clean and clear that I was still mentally clear enough not to send it (or drive a car if I had to, or talk to anyone, etc.). Whew... that was close... And while 0.100g can easily keep someone up for 16 hours, going to sleep was a simple matter of getting in bed and deciding to fall asleep (that only works after the first 8-10 hours, though).

 

Oh what a difference a methyl group can make... Or a lack thereof, as it were. :meditate:


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#154 Alder Logs

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Posted 04 April 2015 - 09:52 AM

While I nearly never exceed my Likes quota, I was not allowed to Like that nice old trip report, Teev.  I don't think I should be over limit now.  Maybe it's the shift of servers that got me.


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 11:11 AM

There's a quota on liking stuff? 

 

Something seems wrong with that.  I've never been denied the pleasure, yet .. maybe I'm not liking enough?

 

:)

 

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Posted 04 April 2015 - 10:14 PM

Hey... not sure anyone had this idea, but...

 

Akari, wanna have a threesomeSave some money and hire two prostitutes in a hotel room... it will feel just like any crappy threesome and won't cause any emotional harm to anyone (other than to yourself, when facing the reality of how empty it is).

 

Please don't think I'm telling you not to do it... by all means... man, if this is something that you must discover, then chase it... really. Don't hear anyone, just yourself... what do you really wantThen you want it... go for it, but do it in a way with minimal consequences.

 

I understand that having two women on a bed for yourself is a pretty common fantasy (or even need) for most men, Even more in an scenario that has been perfectly-pictured in the mind hundreds of times (mostly during porn viewing and masturbation), so expectations are high... no shame to admit anything here. Let's face it, an spontaneus occasion amongst friends is very rare, not happening to most men throughout their lifetimes. Anyway, such rarity makes the matter more subject of curiosity than expectation, so even if those expectations are not met, the experience itself might be worthwhile, who knows... experiencing it might be a part of your journey, so no harm in making it happen... just don't leave a mess behind.

 

Really, I don't even have to ask my wife about it... I know that if I ever ask about it, it will be just as bad as doing... we do have our kinks, sure, but between the two of us... as someone said, she's prolly just as keen to accept that as I am to accept another men with us, so question is settled... that's not on the table... involving a third person is just not worth the possible benefits or risks of it.

 

Peace.


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 11:04 PM

There are, and have been, cultures where such things would not make a blip.  If we didn't have the all-seeing eyes of certain judgmental deities in the bedroom with us, it might look totally different.  The Great Mystery might not complain. 

 

Whatever the case, whether in patriarchal or matriarchal culture, monogamy, polygamy, or polyandry, might be what could be coming down through the generations.  We see today through a very complex shade of tinted glass.  There is a dominator stream of culture active in most of the world today.  Who knows what might work for us if cooperation and sharing was handed down through the generations. 

 

We are subject to much in the way of conditioning. 


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Posted 14 November 2015 - 11:54 AM

This topic is from way before I made my way back to Topia, but I found it so interesting. I hpe Akari is still around. From the post above where he said he wants to let the universe take the wheel, so to speak, I'm imagining that not much has changed about his situation, except his further resignation.

 

Also while there was an interesting scope of perspectives displayed here I did notice that not one person affirmed Akari's desire to have a threesome. It should give us pause that the while many different reasonings were given for why Akari should resign himself to accepting the prohibition, pretty much every strain of "advice" offered in practice aligned quite well with the proscriptions of a monotheistic culture of normativity and psychological repression.

 

"Do not succumb to your desires - they will only lead to social ruin! Marriages will fall apart, society will crumble at its foundations! Children without mothers! Anarchy! For the good of the your marriage - for the good of your people - ignore your desires, cease to think about them, and in time you will forget them. Then they will trouble you no more, and you too will be counted among the righteous."

 

That^ has been the message of every patriarchal monotheistic ecosystem-destroying control-based culture since around the time that humans "developed" agriculture. If there's one thing that makes people easy to control, its getting them to internalize the prohibition on their desires.

 

Just for the record, I think that's bullshit, and a lot of others agree with me.

 

In the long run you do no one any favors by repressing your desires, or by sublimating them. The world doesn't need any more black holes of emptiness.

 

I'm not denying that such repression can result in a "rock-solid" marriage. I'm just asking if you really want a relationship that's modeled after a rock.

 

On the other hand, clearly you were getting nowhere with the approach you were taking at the beginning of this thread. You weren't repressing your desires, then but you were allowing them to be repressed by others.

 

Instead of spewing out your unrealized desires to the very person who has the least interest in seeing them materialize, I advise you to stay quiet, like a Samurai. Samurais don't talk, they act. You need to go undercover instead of repressing. That may sound like essentially the same thing but there is a huge difference. Those who go undercover never forget, and they keep their eyes open, knowing that time is on their side.

 

I don't have very good optics on your situation but based on what I've read and partly on intuition, I would advise you to stop telling yourself that you're "not smooth" and go out and find a specific 3rd person who is down for the threesome. You may think this requires the stereotypical "womanizing" skills, you think it requires cologne and big muscles and a car and a "smooth" personality, but let me tell you, that is all BULLSHIT! The truth is you can never know what is going to attract someone to you.

 

Just put yourself out there and don't hide that desire of yours! (this is a big mistake people make, to come off as harmless, a nice eunuch, for fear of offending someone) Always your light shine, that light that makes you shine because inside you're burning like the sun with your desire... be patient but persistent, clever rather than forceful... throw in randomizing factors such seeking out unfamiliar situations and breaking your routine, to add an element of so-called "chaos" that will corrode the defenses.

 

Just remember you have to undertake all this while staying quiet about it. The quiet you are the more the various defenses will be apt to ignore you. This is to your benefit.

 

You have to take the initiative back yourself. When you finally bring up the subject again with your partner, this time with a specific person in mind who you know is interested - don't literally bring them with you, just their name/details - you're making her face a completely different set of choices then when you ask her permission from the beginning to even look around.


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Posted 03 December 2015 - 12:09 PM

I'm in for a three, as long as the other two are ladies. Then, I'm a Pagan anyway, so....
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Posted 03 December 2015 - 12:40 PM

LOL, with two chics can one be a mushroom(s)  for couples.

 






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