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#1 PsyBearknot

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 07:28 AM

Seeds courtesy of a World Seed Supply auction.

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Seeds soaked for 24 hours

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After 24 hour soak in their home for the next +/- 14 days

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5/21
6 days - first signs of life

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...to be continued...

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 08:29 AM

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I see there seem to be 3 cultivars of Moringa seeds online.

The original - tall grown perrineal for the pods and some grow as annual for leaf
A South African which seems shorter and bushier
And a PKM1 which Aperently has pods that mature sooner and more plentiful along with a better leaf production.

The seeds are pretty inexpensive. I may try to order some additional to see what they are like as well.

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 08:49 PM

Interesting, this is the first I have heard of this plant. I checked out it's Wikipedia entry, it seems like a very useful plant. The fact that the meal cakes can be used to filter water is pretty nifty. I am looking forward to seeing this progress!

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 10:37 AM

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Almost time to plant!
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Posted 26 May 2015 - 11:09 AM

TR - FYI

Trees are often spaced in a line one meter or less apart in order to create living fence posts. Trees are also planted to provide support for climbing crops such as pole beans, although only mature trees should be used for this purpose since the vine growth can choke off the young tree. Moringa trees can be planted in gardens; the tree’s root system does not compete with other crops for surface nutrients and the light shade provided by the tree will be beneficial to those vegetables which are less tolerant to direct sunlight. From the second year onwards, Moringa can be inter-cropped with maize, sunflower and other field crops. Sunflower is particularly recommended for helping to control weed growth
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:27 PM

First repotting to a red solo cup.image.jpg
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Posted 28 May 2015 - 04:13 AM

Say good night to the seedlings as they enter their first overnight sun bath...image.jpg

Got a few peppers and others seedlings under 24/0 lighting so added there as well.
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Posted 29 May 2015 - 10:51 AM

These little buggers grow fast...

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Posted 04 June 2015 - 02:49 PM

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6/1
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6/2
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6/4
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Repoting
Suggested soil is 1/2 - 1/2 potting mix and sand
I was given a bag of store bought container mix
Had calcium sand. Did not go 1/2 - 1/2 due to ability to change Ph. And only potting up the larger of the two. So not a long term home. So maybe a 10:1 ratio. Also filled the fabric pot to about 1 inch and watered in. Mixed 1/4 tlbs of a crumbled mosquito dunk and topped the rest of the soil in the pot to combat a fungus gnat battle.

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Roots
after getting cut out of solo cup. I was concerned about a warning of a long tap root. You can see some leaf curl Under the 6/4 date. I was concerned. Looks like I could have gotten another couple days.

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I wanted to pot it up a little deeper but was concerned to mess with the roots too much

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But it still fits in its temp home
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I might pot up the runt as well.
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Interestingly enough both have almost the same amount of leaf nodes. Ones just bigger/fasterthen the other
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Posted 04 June 2015 - 09:41 PM

Repoting of the runtimage.jpg
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Posted 04 June 2015 - 10:00 PM

5-15 to 6/4
Plant A - 6 inches
Plant B - 3 inches

Plan to top 4th true set of leaves.
Keep in house for 3 months (mid August) then outside for rest of year. That is depending on space and availability of lights.
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Posted 05 June 2015 - 12:07 AM

Those grew fast!

Pretty cool utilitarian plant.

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 11:50 AM

The filtering capabilities of the seeds

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 10:53 AM

6/6
Runt
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6/7
Runt with little yellowing

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Not sure if it did not like the transplant, the new soil, could possibly be mag dificiency.

The big guy
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6/9
Have a leaf curling going on. When current I was wondering again possibly about the soil. But as time progresses it just seems how the new leafs act when the first come out.

Runt
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The big guy
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Beginning of the move - moving to a new place.

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New home being set up for the 2 plants.
The runt was left out in the rain the past couple of nights...then the next couple days...and nights...so I decided to make it an outside plant. I will need to watch it as they say not to out them out till after 30 days.

The big guy is still growing. Looks like it's liking its new set up. I have it currently under 4 23w cfl's. 2 each spectrum bulb alternating on 2 y splitters. So it's under about 100w of full spectrum lighting
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Big guy with new shoot
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6/16
the big guy was starting to spit out some side shoots on the branches. But the leaves are turning yellow and dropping. But I was going to remove them to start training the plant.


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 01:53 PM

6/16
A couple more yellowing leaves
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The new shoot has not fully opened yet and there is a new shoot starting to break through.

I might top it to get some branching or let it go one more node.
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Posted 05 July 2015 - 03:39 PM

I started my moringa this year :)   not sure exactly when.. but she is in a 2-3gallon fabric pot now and about 2 ft talll.

Id say I started her around... 2-3 months ago.  

 

Have you eaten any of the leaves yet?   They taste great :D


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 07:24 PM

No they are pissed at me and are turning yellow and dropping g leaves.

The taller of the 2 is 1.5 -2 ft tall now. Maybe I need to pot it up.

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 11:34 AM

Taller one bent over after I watered it today.

Was gonna report it tonight but was nervous about the bend so thought I'd do it this morning before work.
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Thought the yellowing leaves might be root bound but when took out of pot no roots showing.

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Still needed support after repot
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Now makes me wonder if it was lack of light and stretching from my recent neglect during moving.

We will see.

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Posted 10 July 2015 - 02:56 PM

my moringa is looking pretty decent... i have it in my greenhouse... so i think that is causing it to be a lil on the

weak side...

 

if yours shielded from wind? 

 

Im going to start putting mine outside the greenhouse to get hit with some wind to help strengthen her up.

Moringa is naturally SUPER brittle and VERY VERY easy to break with your bare hands.   Even when its a few

inches thick its easy to break.  

 

Might explain its ability as a bioaccumulator, reminds me of comfrey roots, how wet and easily snapped they are.

 

 

I got mine potted up on my MJ mix, I think im going to make it 1/3 part sand though, and treat it like my aloe... just

water more oftenthen the aloe.


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Posted 12 July 2015 - 02:23 AM

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The other one
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