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On Making Solvent-Free Shatter (Rosin)


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#41 Heirloom

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 01:38 PM

Mine is not silk but mesh imported from Germany , this could be plastic.

I have some stainless steel fabric.

Heres a pic, I have a lot of these. I could mail to an address if anyone
needs and can't find locally.

I don't know the micro value but held up to my mouth I can breath
through them.

I used them for filtering butane oil extracts.

PM me if you want 2 in an envelope send to your safe address.

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 11:08 PM

Why not make dry ice hash? Bubble hash has a lot more steps, and takes quite a bit longer. I believe dry ice can give better yeild if multiple bag mesh sizes are used.

And no need to dry the water out of the product.

Edited by SteampunkScientist, 25 March 2017 - 11:09 PM.

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 12:56 AM

I have never made bubble hash , I use the bags for sieving or dry ice hash.

one of my favorite clones yielded 8 grams of hash per ounce and I then used the cannabis after sieving to make oil getting several grams.

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 08:30 AM

my bags are definitely silk screen


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 08:33 AM

Why not make dry ice hash? Bubble hash has a lot more steps, and takes quite a bit longer. I believe dry ice can give better yeild if multiple bag mesh sizes are used.

And no need to dry the water out of the product.

 

yield and quality are reflexive in sieve style hash. 

 

you can't up one without sacrificing the other. dry ice hash is made with a single bag for

good reason (gravity), if you haven't ever made it or don't have understanding of the

process why are you trying to make changes?



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Posted 27 March 2017 - 11:16 AM

On average how many grams per ounce does bubble hash yield say using bud.
My 8gn's and oil per ounce was from bud.

How much hash does it take to make 1 gram of solvent free shatter?
like 1.2gm hash to 1gm shatter?

My nephew introduced me to shatter a year ago more or less. He told me about using a curling iron to make it. I don't talk to him much as he moved.

Edited by Heirloom Spores, 27 March 2017 - 11:55 AM.

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 02:16 PM

~15% yield making bubble hash, has for me, been really high quality. You can beat the fuck out of the plant matter and get a higher yield.

 

I have taken really good bubble hash, and winterized it (dewaxing). About 20% garbage fell out that I caught in a filter.

 

I believe it is safe to assume a pressing method will result in a lower yield (<80%)

 

Curious to know from people with experience pressing rosin.


Edited by mate0x, 27 March 2017 - 02:19 PM.


#48 SteampunkScientist

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 04:30 PM


Why not make dry ice hash? Bubble hash has a lot more steps, and takes quite a bit longer. I believe dry ice can give better yeild if multiple bag mesh sizes are used.

And no need to dry the water out of the product.

yield and quality are reflexive in sieve style hash.

you can't up one without sacrificing the other. dry ice hash is made with a single bag for
good reason (gravity), if you haven't ever made it or don't have understanding of the
process why are you trying to make changes?
I'm trying to understand what the difference is, as both methods use cold to separate the plant material from the tricomes and other resinous material, but the bubble method gets everything wet, and seems messy.

However, if quality goes up, then that is a good reason. By why does quality improve with ice water as opposed to dry ice?

BTW: if I came off in my original question like I was belittling or making a statement about one method over the other, I apologise! I was actually asking the question why use a method that seems more labor intensive?

Edited by SteampunkScientist, 27 March 2017 - 07:18 PM.

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 03:51 PM

Zen, I really like your write up on pressing. Will definitely give it a try and report back.

Bubble hash is a little messy but the results are wonderful. The biggest time sink with bubble hash is waiting for the liquid to strain, and this is especially lengthy when you get to the fine mesh bags (for me, the last two bags - 45 and 25 micron). I typically hand agitate the last two bags to keep the 'hash' from clogging the holes and preventing the water from draining.

BTW the Fresh Headies bag sets are what I use.

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 06:55 PM

Dry sift FTW

https://www.youtube....pdfZG_kE&t=534s

 

You can make some in small batches in just a few seconds and leave a still usable smokable starting product or you can go all in and go for a full harvest with ounces on large screens.

 

Then follow up with a static separation if desired and get well up into the high 90s% purity.

 

Then you can just scoop however much you want into a parchment and apply slight heat and pressure and get a good melt to rosin.  No water-soluble terps lost as in bubble hash and you don't have to use as much heat to melt it into a dab so (not as many) low temp terps are lost either

 

Or just do like I do and scoop a couple key bumps of just loose heads into a heated banger and watch it melt into a puddle and boil and bubble as it vaporizes for a very nice clean tasting hit.

 

It just disappoints me it took until i was damn near 40 to discover this. =)


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Posted 15 July 2017 - 02:28 PM

Little sample of the product of the above method

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Posted 15 July 2017 - 06:13 PM

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Very very nice
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Posted 16 July 2017 - 08:09 AM

Question, and please I am really trying to think of all ways that rosin can be separated...

 

Is it possible to just boil buds in distilled water and have the oils float to the top of the water and skim it off?  Or does this method introduce too many contaminants into the oils?

 

I am in the process of collecting the materials for a press (just need PID controllers and heat cartridges) but was wondering about this... 

 

I realize that THC itself is not soluble in water, however it is soluble in the oils that will float to the top of the water.  If this works. it might be yet another simple way to extract.

 

 

And that static separation looks very nice I must say! Looks like brown sugar! :tongue:


Edited by SteampunkScientist, 16 July 2017 - 09:02 AM.


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Posted 16 July 2017 - 02:29 PM

That seems like it would be a way to waste a bunch of trichomes.  If they didn't melt they would just fall to the bottom and who knows what may happen if they melt.   I say keep it as simple as possible.  Either smoosh the hell out of it with heat or just knock them all of over sift screens.  The latter to me is the best way because it involves the least amount of ingredients in the mix.


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#55 Hash_Man

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 06:14 PM

trichomes are heavier than water
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Posted 16 July 2017 - 06:44 PM

Hmmm. Okay, if trichomes are heavier than water, and need more than 212 degrees to melt properly, then it won't work...

Thanks for the info.

Edited by SteampunkScientist, 16 July 2017 - 06:45 PM.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 01:19 PM

GREAT THREAD!
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