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Posted 18 September 2015 - 02:07 PM

Good day to you all!


As I've told in my introduction, I'm a Dutch mycotopian and I like to grow stuff.

What kind of stuff you might wonder?

All of them.

No really, all of them.


In this topic you can ask questions about your plants, as long as it will not hijack the thread of course, and I will try to answer them with the knowledge and practical skills I posess. 

You might have noticed English is not my native language. I get around pretty well, but since I'm Dutch I might come off as a blunt MF. Please take note of that. I can be very direct, with no sugarcoats. That's the way my native communication works and it's something I've been battling with eversince I started posting on the web in English.


In this topic, I will also take your hand and show you how I see the world. How I treat my plants for instance, but also what I would like to see in other people's growing rooms. 


You might have noticed I like to type a lot. I love to make stuff boring for you guys, just so I can see in your response how much you really want to learn. Of course I will incorporate (some basic, maybe some advanced) science about plants and microbiology as well as general 'my grandpa did this stuff' horticulture and techniques. 


I'm working on a few projects concerning pot, or weed, or MJ, however you want to call it. And this topic will serve as a documentation next to my analogue growing book.


I will try to continue this thread next week. I have to be somewhere right now. I'm still posting it unfinished because the last time I couldn't restore the autosave.


Have a nice weekend!

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 03:34 PM

I'm not surprised, my site has been giving me all sorts of new weirdness.



let's just get over our cultural differences, we know what they are, and we can all admit to them if we choose. Telling someone in advance that you are #$%&^ doesn't mean they will like that, or accept it.


Now I'm getting strike through and not able to edit my spelling, weirdness in the crack of noon.

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Posted 29 September 2015 - 02:53 PM

Alright, let's get this thread off of it's ass and get going.



I have a very unpopular opinion about cannabis enthusiasts. Don't get me wrong, I am one myself. But lately all I see in the news are the positive stories. Mainly the positive case-studies about epilepsy and other psychiatric illnesses. Case studies should be viewed as case studies; there was this one case, where it worked, and that could be promising however it's never a guarantee for other people with the same problems/illnesses. I see a lot of super-mega-positive news about cannabis, which after some research turned out to be untrue or highly manipulated. Cannabis enthusiasts - not all of them, mind you - seem to have been using the same propaganda-style for the PRO-cannabis-war as the ANTI-lobby lately. If you really fact check, and come with empirical evidence of course I will believe you. But a news broadcast saying a little girl was cured of cancer doesn't change the fact that a friend of mine who thought cannabis was the cure, is now burried 6 feet deep. The enthusiasts and positive stories made him decide to swear off regular medication and use solely cannabis to cure a golfball sized brain tumor. Seeing someone fade away like that is a good reality check. I believe in research, hard statistics and studies. Of course it is wonderfull when cannabis is part of a cure, but in my view, it is never the ultimate answer. Also, don't start with me about weed in traffic. I am against all drug use in traffic. We might differ in opinion about that. Let's just agree to disagree, or to agree, to avoid arguments in this thread about it. 

That being said, I love cannabis for what it is. And since a few.. nah.. maybe 6 years I've been selecting and breeding my own strains. The special thing for me is not the effect, but the taste. Most types of cannabis work the same way on my brain, so I have hardly any different feelings with either indica or sativa for that matter. So there's taste, and I love tasting. I love breeding plants and experimenting. Here are some of the projects I'm working on.


Project Punisher

Cheap regular seeds, freebies, ripoffs, we all know the drill. How can something good ever come from this? Plants labeled like something else, bought from breeders who don't know the slightest thing about genetics and who are just in it for the money.. Welcome to The Netherlands. We have seedshops popping up like mushrooms on a rainy day, and fading as fast as those mushrooms during a drought period. We Dutch people are cheapskates, you must have heard about that.. Project punisher is about making the best of €40 worth of regular seeds. It started as an experiment; how many autoflowers can I cross before something weird happens? I don't even remember anymore.. So there I was, with 2 generations of randomly crossed seeds, from all unknown heritages. Some were called NLX Diamond, some called blueberry AF, some Autojack, some Northern lights AF. But we all know, seeds for low prices are almost never what the seller tells you. I decided to make something beautiful, while using the White Rihanna (I'll come back to that later).

Then, the selection began; I went looking for big phenotypes.

I found big phenotypes, but the flavor was lame, awfull or just too plain for my taste. 

I redid the selection, looking for big and nice tasting phenotypes. It didn't work. I found huge autoflowers, but none of them were worth the effort. My micro-growing area was filled with some Power Plant, Black Domina and an elusive Bubblegum (originating from Eskobar, a breeder (I think) from the NL's). I thought: What the heck, let's just see how many generations it takes to create autoflowers from 100% auto, crossing with 100% non-auto. It turned out the good ol' Mendellian genetic square worked; after four generations, the first autoflowers started popping up. And damn what I found there.. Musky, dank, loaded with THC, some purple (thanks bubblegum!) and some green (thanks Black Domina!) but they were all.. dwarf plants. Crap! Dwarf plants?! Freaky looking fluffy dwarves?! NOOOOOO!

I went back one generation, the Punisher #2. Those weren't auto, but still they carried the recessive AF-gene. This year, I planted those outdoors, and I found some wonderfull phenotypes. But they aren't autoflower. I will cherish them anyway, and check for pest- and disease resitance. Right now, they're halfway through flowering, and every day I take a peek on how they are doing. Vigorous is the right word. So vigourous, that I didn't even care about little patches of stem rot. 

But that's p#2. We want a nice tasting, huge autoflower called p#3! We'll have to wait another year on that.

Pics will be there whenever I find the courage and time to upload them. Every forum is different, and I need to get the hang of this first.


Project White Rihanna

So, there I was, back in 2010. I was 20 years old, trying out some of those new so-called Autoflower strains. We just passed the whole Danish genetics love/hate relationships and I was up for something new. Little did I know.. I found those autoflowers amazing! But just one plant didn't really like to flower early. And since I started growing in '04, I have never seen a plant like it. I had this Critical Jack that just kept on growing and growing. Three, maybe four months after sowing, the first buds appeared. I figured I was on to something special! If I knew how right I was, I would have pollinated the entire plant! 

This thing was massive, like 1.6m high, smelled like lemon cake and was loaded with buds. I decided to use some blueberry autoflower pollen to make some seeds. Thankfully, after a few generations of selection, I found the big phenotypes reappearing. But there was just one problem; the original CJ was a FEM plant. And we all (should) know how that goes.. HERMIE ALERT!

So I figured to sow 40 seeds in my micro-grow-cabinet, and just stress the hell out of them to see which plants would go hermie, and which ones wouldn't. I was surprised to see that just 10 out of 40 became hermie. I repeated the process with the offspring, just one more generation to be sure. All this mangling, beating, switching light schedules, lack of water, overwatering and just general stuff you would only see in SM dungeons didn't break these plants. It was the time when Chris brown decided to suckerpunch Rihanna, somehow it was all over the news. Since I think Rihanna is a very pretty woman, and she didn't budge just like my plants, I decided to call this strain/cross: White Rihanna. Right now, I'm in the second generation of stabilising the traits like taste and size and it's all going well. However, I like to do this shit outdoors, and the summer is over. So next year, I can start on the WR#3. A full auto plant, that grows the size of a regular floweing plant, in just 2 months extra compared to regular autoflowers. Some call those Super Auto strains, I like to give them my own names.


Project Bubblekush

What do you do when you accidentaly make a strain, from a Master Kush and that forementioned elusive Bubblegum, that tastes like blueberry cookies? YOU MAKE SOME SEEDS DARNIT!

But what if you have just one plant, and it's a female? Yeah, that's what I thought, you don't know either right? I decided to keep this one alive. The lady is two and a half years old right now, she has flowered once and revegged once too. It's an indica dominant purple collored taste bomb. I could have gotten (is that really english?) more seeds, if it weren't for my friend who decided to keep the BBG pollen stored in his pocket for 3 weeks. Eventually four seeds came out of the MK and three of them didn't even germinate. So now we're stuck here. With a wonderfull phenotype, that I can't back- or forward cross without losing the taste. Maybe some colloidal silver, some what'sitcalledfeminisationstuff? I don't know. Let's just keep this lady alive until I've made up my mind.


Those are just a grasp of the few cannabis projects I'm working on. You might have figured out I started at age 14. My parents loved to see my enthusiasm in the garden, my love for plants and the fact that I moved away from the computer every once in a while. And to be honest, I just smoked one joint a month at that age. I did great in school. I still disagree with them allowing me to do so, because I have seen the memory damage and lethargy it can cause with young people. Luckily their free way of raising their kids didn't harm me as much as I've seen happen with others, but still I would do it differently. Still they support me with my plants, and besides from the accidental "Oops I plowed your seedlings" we can share the garden without any trouble.



Erythroxylum Coca


A new font, a new plant. Coca, like any other plant, had my interest at a very young age. I was wondering why the US started such a war over simple plant.. I decided to try cocaine at the age of 16. I didn't sleep for two days. I hated the stuff. Never again, I said to my friends. But still the coca plant had some magic surrounding it. How hard would it be to grow a plant like that? What's all the fuss about? And how come people say the cocaine content would lower at this altitude? Is that even possible? I read about the teas, the culture in South America surrounding this plant and of course about the drug lords.

I ordered some seeds from my favorite seed-store that also specialises in grey-area plants when I turned 18. Somehow, the check got bounced and my mother got a phone call from the company asking about the payment of these coca seeds. I had to explain to my mom what I was doing in my room. I told her how hard it was to grow these plants, and that I saw this as the ultimate challenge.. She agreed with me trying to get them to grow. Just a reminder: the netherlands is 78m above sea level at the ultimate highest point. Half of the country is submerged below sea level!

After weeks of waiting, checking, pondering around, I finally got one seed to germinate. I completely forgot these plants were slow growers, and in my impatience, I killed the poor little thing.

A year ago, I decided to give it another go. I bought some live plants from some untrustworthy website. Just after I thought I threw away $100, the little seedlings arrived. 

Halfway through that year, I fell in love with a wonderfull Latina woman, though I didn't tell her about my coca plants. In the mean time, I was experimenting with a lot of phytohormones to create a growth booster. The Latina woman shared my enthusiasm, and in that enthusiasm I decided to spray my plants with my experimental hormone mixture. 

After a month or two, maybe five, who's counting? I figured I should ask her about my plants. I mean, she's a South American native and she probably has seen a lot of coca throughout her life. I showed her my plants and she was surprised on how I could have kept them a secret for over 5 years.. Five years?! I'm sorry sweetheart, these plants are just two years old.. She didn't believe me and we almost started a fight. Until I remembered the hormone mixture. It must have been the mixture.. 

So after a lot of experimenting, I found a mixture that makes coca grow and flower like crazy. Hey, how nice! Flowering plants! Let's make seeds!

After months, no really, months of pollinating by hand, I found that the two plants I had just didn't produce seeds. I thought maybe my mixture made them sterile. Or that maybe it was the environment.

When I got a big stomach ache, my mamasita came to me and told me about the benefits of coca tea. We decided to make two teas, one of every plant. The first and biggest plant didn't help my stomach ache that much, it was just a little soothing but not enough to really notice. Then I tried the other tea, almost instantly my mouth went numb, my stomach went numb, I remembered this feeling..

Turned out that I got two species, even though I ordered just one. For a long time I thought the phenotypical difference was caused by the pots they were in, and the hormonal mixture I used. But after some more reading, and close inspection, I found that I have a Coca var. Novogranatense as wel. This explains why they don't produce seeds! Heck! Why didn't I see that before?!


In the mean time, I've mastered the skill of soil mixing and seeking the best nutrient mixtures for both coca species. Once you get past the seedling stage, they're actually pretty easy plants! Or aren't they? Well, I think they're easy with the knowledge I have now. I started with some new seeds, to see if that's true.


Are you still reading this?

I admire you. I would have lost track by now, heck, maybe after the first post! Why are you reading this? Is it really interesting, or do you just like to find the errors in my English? I don't mind. I have been typing for a long while guys. And I have a flu that even coca tea can't beat. It's bedtime for me! Next time, I'll be telling the stories of the miracle berry, the Japanese red pine, the Ephedra and maybe we'll get to the Lemon Caviar.


So far for now, so long for me! Howdy cowboys and bullgirls! See yall next update!

Edited by JanSteen, 29 September 2015 - 03:03 PM.

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Posted 29 September 2015 - 03:03 PM

I may be the only one to respond so far but I find your stories fascinating. Sort of like my own which I have chosen to not share, more out of a lack of long term memory in a short term situation. In other words, I forget half way through what I was talking about and go on with a story or other meaningless dribble that loses my audience.


I have not been able to buy coca plants, at least never got delivered, and I figured it was a sign that I wasn't allowed by the powers that be to do that just yet. I wonder how some plants can be easily propogated by cuttings and cloning, and some can't. Also why some easily grow seeds and some need sister plants nearby or a helping handsie.


The only thing I would say is that if you go any smaller on your font, I won't be able to read it even with my glasses, cuz it's right down there with the phone book in terms of readability.


I can't change it in your post, only when I make a post so in the future please make it as large as possible, for us hard of seeing folk.

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Posted 29 September 2015 - 03:09 PM

Control key held and then hitting the plus sign + makes any browsers font bigger fyi

Edited by hyphaenation, 29 September 2015 - 03:11 PM.

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Posted 29 September 2015 - 03:12 PM

Thanks Hyph, I feel as though I just got new glasses, and they work!!!

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 01:53 PM

Awhhh yissssss! A question: I wonder how some plants can be easily propogated by cuttings and cloning, and some can't. Also why some easily grow seeds and some need sister plants nearby or a helping handsie.
A very good question indeed. It all depends on the type of plant you use, and the stage the plant is in.
In general, green soft plants (classified sometimes as Herbs) root easily. First of all because they are way more flexible in producing and maintaining hormone levels that exhibit or inhibit (root) growth. Second because their vascular system is way easier to manipulate; if you leave a herb cutting outside of a moist environment, you will see that the stem will close itself on the cut-end within hours. This is to unsure water loss is kept to a minimum. However, most herbs do lose water quite rapidly. Due to their huge pore size in the leafs and their lack of a woody structure. That lack of a woody structure (hardened dead cellulose) causes most herbs to stand up only due to the pressure of the water inside their cells. That's why weed and grass, as well as mint or other herbs die so easily when you forget to water them. Also, the green parts in the herb-type plants, can photosynthesize, which allows those plants to generate energy even without leafs.
Then there is a class of woody plants. Plants that have strong stems with mostly dead material. Those plants have more trouble adjusting, because they just can't repair tissue that has died months or years ago. Also they have a way more 'strict' management of hormones and water. Their stems will close at the cut-end as well due to lack of water if you keep them dry, but this time, there will be nearly no possible way to regenerate growth at those parts. A completely new structure has to be built from the inside out. Whereas herbs have these outer structures already under their 'epidermis' or upper skin (cannabis even forms little bumps on the stem near the soil; if the plant breaks under windy conditions, roots will pop out within weeks). Those woody plants tend to go into a hybernation mode when you are making cuttings. They will try to conserve energy until they have formed roots, because they don't have green parts that can generate that energy.
There you have the basics. Of course there are a lot of exceptions, Cherries for instance root so easily that it's even hard to kill them. And soft green plants of some families root like stone bricks: not at all.
I'm keeping this pretty simple, but if you would like to know more, search some about Monocots and Dicots to learn about the two main families/classes of plants, where you will also find things as Meristem, Vascular arrangement and other technical terms that might come in useful when you are looking for 'general' help with plants. Most of these families respond a similar way to pH and nutrients and such.
If you think that's not enough, I suggest you keep reading about phytohormones, with Auxin - the amazing rooting & shooting hormone - in general. You can extract rooting hormones pretty easily with a high proof alcohol and some cut willow branches (that are rooting in plain tapwater, should take a week or so). Keep it cool and out of the light if you would like to store it for a longer period of time.


The sister-plant system works in two ways.

1. The plants send out signalling hormones to let other plants know they're there, but also that they can safely germinate because of the right conditions. A lot of scientific work is done in this field, because there's nearly no visible stuff to see about it. It could improve crop rates a lot if we knew how this all works. It has been proven that plants that get affected by pests send out these hormones, tobacco makes more nicotine if other plants nearby are being eaten.

2. The bacterial and fungal flora can be easily 'grafted' this way onto seedlings. Some orchids don't grow without symbiotic fungi, but those fungi don't grow without the orchid. The only resolution here is to sow new seeds directly on the older orchids roots.

Edited by JanSteen, 11 October 2015 - 03:07 PM.

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 03:04 PM

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Welcome back readers, as promised today I'll spread some words about the elusive Miracle Berry.


Synsepalum Dulficum


Imagine a time, just before slavery started, the time when Christian dudes went out to the deepest and darkest places of Africa to try to spread the word of god. You would hear stories about forest spirits, about ghosts and maybe even some general voodoo stuff (it wasn't called voodoo back then of course, but religion).

So, there you are, as a white man visiting tribes and hearing stories that might sound worse than a nightmare. The people are shy at first, but after a while they offer you food. They seem pretty nice and friendly. But before they offer a real meal, you get a little berry pushed into your hands. The tribesmen make an eating gesture. You decide to do as they imply, and you eat the berry. A strong sensation of sweetness covers your tongue. After that, everything tastes sweet for the next two to four hours. Even sand has the taste of something amazing. You chug down on some of your acidified wine you brought all the way from Europe, and it tastes like new, freshly bottled wine. How is that? What are these people doing with me?! Is this a punishment of god?! Is this my punishment, that even shit would taste like candy, and that I can never trust my tastebuds again?! God's wrath upon me!


That's how I imagine it would have gone down. I'm sure it didn't happen that way, but explorers found the Miracle berry pretty long ago near central Africa. It's a berry that contains a certain chemical that influences your tastebuds to make everything taste sweet. You could down a bottle of vinegar thinking it would be lemonade; you can't tell the difference by taste.

This makes the stuff amazing for cooking, gastronomy and of course it could help diabetics ease down on the sugar. I wonder why Coca Cola isn't using this stuff already; they could leave out artificial sweeteners immediately and replace it by acidic tasting stuff like vitamin C. A befriended chef introduced me to the stuff, and I think it's amazing.


The Miracle berry grows on a bush, much alike coffee. It is hard to come by here in the Netherlands, since the seeds have to be imported from Africa. Then there is the general lack of knowledge about growing them. It took me two years of searching (and harassing a seller to order them for me, I'm really sorry dude!). But finally I got them. Two young shrubs standing 5 centimeters tall. Almost immediately they started dying. I found out after some more searching that they love acidic soil. And there I was, trying to keep them at a pH of 8 (which is 1000 x less acidic than pH 5, remember every pH degree is a factor 10 less acidic than the previous one and it works the other way around too. So 10x10x10=1000). I changed the entire pot, replaced it with peat (pH=5.5) and suddenly they took off. Again I couldn't help my enthusiasm and sprayed them with hormones; after months of standing still, they suddenly exploded! Growing in all directions at once! Amazing!


Right now, I still can't find out for sure if they like shade or full sunlight. But what I do know, is that it would take another three years for them to start producing fruit.

I bought some of the extract of these berries to have a little gimmick at parties, or to use when my little cousins come over for dinner. If they don't like brussels sprouts, I will just pass them the miracle berry and they will eat their vegetables as if it were candy. The extracts are easier and cheaper than a little bush, but if you have a year-round tropical temperature, you could just plant them outside and let nature do the work of course! Make sure you plant them in acidic soil though, or they will wilt away in days.




What time is it? Time for another?

Nah.. Let's talk about bugs!


Bugs, hate it or love it the underdogs are on top. Your plants ain't gonna shine untill the bugs are stopped. (Thanks 50Cent for the inspiration, if you're interested; that's all I know about rap)

Here in Central-Western-Europe we have some nasty bugs running around. But hell, who am I kidding! Our spiders can't kill humans, we don't even have venomous snakes, nearly no lizards, and the ants around here sting less than grass. Who am I kidding, this is the safest nature in the world we have here. Even boars are scarce, wolves haven't been reported for over 150 years except a few times when Polish immigrants decided to pull jokes on the country by taking roadkill wolves from Poland and lay them on the streets here. Hilarious!

Heck, we have so many deer that they die of starvation and/or drown in the winters. Awfull to see, but that's how they like to manage stuff here.


We do have:

  • Snails: can be kept at bay with copper tape around a stem or pot. Connect two seperate horizontal strips with a battery if you want to go hardcore on them; as soon as they touch both seperate strips at once, they will be fried.
  • Spider mites: can't be killed with sprays anymore, you can try but most of the times it will be less of an effort to increase humidity or use Neem oil.
  • Aphids: take away the ants (this is no joke: use flypaper around the stem of the infected plant and ants will stay away). Aphids, or lice as we call them, are symbiotic with ants. If you take away the ants, the ladybugs will just eat them all. That's outdoors of course, indoors you can try spraying Neem oil or some other non-toxic repellant. 
  • Thrips: these buggers can be scared off with Neem oil as well, but most of the times they don't even get the chance to form a real plague; increase humidity to begin with. Yellow tape with double sticky sides can help decrease numbers.
  • Root-eating-worms (whatever type) can be killed effectively by keeping the soil dry and keeping watering to a minimum for a week. They die off in dry conditions. Usually if your plants get these bugs, the soil was too wet to begin with.


Pest control

  • Pyrethrines (so called 'biological pestcontrol') as a pest control do not work for 2 or more generations of bugs - 1-3 weeks -, don't use them please. They are toxic to cats and usually don't work at all because all pests are immune to this stuff already. Thanks farmers!
  • Fly trap paper can do wonders, really. This stuff is more effective than anything I've ever used. Wearing gloves to smear the sticky stuff onto the plants is advised. Only use this on ornamental plants and/or fruit species. Never on the fruit itself of course.
  • If you want to protect plants that are going to be eaten or smoked, use Neem oil. It's some old Indian stuff (from India) that works great! Also, it can be used in meals. It has a pretty.. Distinct odour. I don't like it myself, so that's why I developped a new anti-bug oil with a better smell. Dissolve the neem with some dishwasher soap (a few drops of soap will suffice for five teaspoons of neem oil) and dip your plants in it. Maybe use a bucket or something.
  • Keep ants and snails at bay, always. Snails 'grind' plant leaves with their awfull teeth (google them if you dare!) which are the main cause of rotting spots in soft plants. Ants are almost always bad news, they FARM! aphids. Really, they suck out liquid sugars from the aphids ass and protect them from predators in return. How sick is that? Well, it's nature. Humans do that too, if you believe Pastor Doctor Martin SSempa. But I'm sure it wouldn't harm any plants.
  • Plants do great when the environment is less stable; they adapt rapidly from the inside and as long as water loss is prevented, they can survive nearly everything. But pests do not! Keep that in mind.
  • Never, ever, EVER! take outdoor plants inside. Indoors you have no predation, no rain, nothing to prevent pests from getting out of control. If you really do want to take them indoors, make a quarantine far away from your house plants and keep your outdoor stuff there for a month before even thinking about placing them together.
  • Anything else? It will pop up for sure. But then I'll just edit this post. I have a secret I'm not sharing until I made a marketable product out of it. Give me a few years will ya ;-)



Again, thanks for reading and responding! Now it's time for a well deserved break. I hope that you learned something new today!





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Posted 12 October 2015 - 03:02 PM

Thank you so much for the font increase. I have had to go back to using my laptop since my compute is fighting with CloudUnfare at the moment. I miss being able to upload pictures, but as a security measure, I'm probably better off just being an asshole, not proving it with evidence.


I move my plants indoors for the winter, to revert them to veg growth, otherwise I have no control over lighting, and yes, the pests come inside with them. I have a sealed area where I can slowly peck away at them, and sticky strips for the inevitable fungus gnats.


I suppose I could put lights up outside to make this happen, but so far this works for me and I have some serious plants to show for it, year after year.


Love your technical posts, keep them going, I'm downloading and keeping them in a folder along with some of the Topia greats, just in case you think this is going unnoticed.


I want some of the synsepalum dulcificum. Do you have a vendor, or do I have to plant a bug under the WSS to get some!?

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 04:24 PM

I don't know any vendors except the Dutch ones. They only sell live plants, and those don't survive frost during transport. Besides, the prices are outrageous! You could pay up to €60 (about $75) for a little plant.

Right now I'm in the process of making cuttings of the Synsepalum. Some showed a few roots today. If you'd like Happy4nic8r, I can save them for you and send them through the mail around May 2016. It would cost me a dollar or three, but if I can make somebody happy with it, I would do it without hesitation. There are too many people that forget the magic of plants. So I love to support enthusiasts. As long as you promise to not grow them commercially, because when I move to the Americas I want to do that myself hehehe. I don't know if this offer is allowed on this forum. For the moderators: the cuttings are non-illegal, non-intoxicating, cullinairy plants. If I'm breaking the rules; let me know please!


Where was I?

Oh right! The botanist files.


Think of this: you're an outlaw in the colonisation era of England. You get caught. Blimey! Well, off you go to new England. The land of the aboriginals and caviar from a bush..

Wait.. Caviar from a bush? Mate?! Caviar comes from a fish. A few fish actually. Is this a joke? I'm afraid not sir. It's a well known fact that, in Australia, things get turned upside down. The caviar over there can indeed, come from a bush.

How does that work?

Eons ago. Nah, maybe millions of years, there was an archetype of a citrus fruit. The same species as where our limes, lemons, oranges, grapefruit, mandarin and other lime-type stuff come from. The ancestors of this archetype have spread far and wide and differentiated into different species through evolution and environmental (and later human) selection. Some weird things happend, the buddha's hand lime came into existance. A freak looking lemon with almost lifelike fingers. That's something entirely different from the limes we have in our kitchen. But basically, they came from the same origin. The buddha's hand just happened to be split completely and covered with an outer layer, where limes and lemons stick together to form a whole globe. The different parts are still separated by a little white layer, but not like the buddha's fingers with a complete outer .. why can't I find the word for it? Outer shell? Husk? Skin? Skin, well, let's call it skin. The buddha's hands have every part, seperately, covered with skin. A truly freaky fruit.


In Australia, that little place below Asia (where the lemon is thought to be originated, just like apples and cherries) something different happened. Instead of just changing the skin of the lime, the entire insides changed too. Imagine cutting open a lemon, or an orange. You can see the rasterized little floppy slurpy sacks of juice right? These have a certain shape that kind of looks like a mesh. Now imagine those juicy sacks round, and inside a chillipepper-like fruit. That's where the Australian finger lime comes from, or the so called Lime Caviar. Unsurprisingly, this fruit combines great with fish.

But it also looks amazing on ice creams! I just popped into my mind that a good chef could even pressurize them with CO2 to give them a little sazz. Just like with grapes, delicious! The sazz from soda, but inside a grape, can you imagine that? It's possible! 


But what about this plant, this legendary bushfruit called finger lime? I'll tell you what! It sucks! I don't know how, but these things attract pests like a fruitsalad. They are nearly indestructable, which is a good thing, but still 20 out of 22 died. I have tried everything within my powers to stop spidermites on these plants. But the spidermites kept on walzing through the leafs as if it was their first meal in years. Don't get me wrong, I helped my mom grow mandarins and limes in the windowsill. I have revived chemically killed olive trees from the dead. But this type of citrus is something entirely different. Without a single notice, they just drop all of their leafs, dry out and die.  

Last week, I resorted to my final option: chemical warfare. It worked. But I'm not happy with it. I can't spray my plants, I can't water like a maniac, I can't move them inside my terrarium (cats and reptiles don't have the metabolic functions to break down most insecticides), so basically, I have plants for the window sill. No, I don't have cats in a terrarium. But I do have a snake.

Arghhhh! Chemicals, death, windowsill downgrades.. Well, that's what happens if you love exotic plants; you fail sometimes. Nothing to do about that.


Join in next time, to hear a little about Vanilla orchids!

Also, remind me to upload some pics if you would be so kind.


Thanks for reading!

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 06:53 PM

Can't like this post enough!


Reminding you to upload pics, then...


I saw quite a few vanilla orchids when I lived in Hawaii. They grew all over, and except for the three year wait, were very cool when they produces beans.

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Ah, Mycotopia.

The place where the dark background hurts my eyes after a while, but it's better for the battery consumption to keep it this way.


Vanilla. The most underated stuff in a kitchen. You know, food producers use it in everything, but we are a bit scared to do so. Which is weird, because it makes things taste a lot better. Adding a vanilla 'stick' to a jar of sugar causes me to actually use sugar in my coffee. The taste is just so much smoother.

I think smooth is the keyword for vanilla. 

A few years ago I was inventarising (is that a word?!) my grow set up, my terrarium and basically my entire bedroom. I found that I had a little bit of room left over between the old books, dirty laundry and.. well, dried up tissues. Come on! I was 21 years old! 

It was the middle of the winter and I love the cold. However, my room being in the attic, winter comes fast and winter comes hard. It's the only room in the house without heating, except for my body heat. I decided some shit needed to change. To start with the tissues, of course. 

My pet snake got into winter sleep every night, because the temperature would actually drop to below zero C. And that was stressing the little animal out. I don't like it when that happens. I went to the local woodshop, ordered myself some pressed wood sheets, a sheet of glass, some mesh, some electrical wires and I started building a new terrarium. I love building things, and I love taking things apart even more. I wish more people of my generation did, because damn.. If they find out you can do anything well, they will ask you for every goddamn moving/painting/carpenting/electrical/hobby/building/whateverneedsahandyman-job there is. And of course they will be offended when you don't want to help out painting, carpenting and plumbing an entire monastary (true story!). I CAN'T HELP IT THAT I'M GOOD WITH A LOT OF PRACTICAL STUFF! 

Anyhow, so, my pet snake needs heat. I could have just bought a heat-mat. But who am I kidding?! How awesome is a 2x36W T-neon set with 'daylight' blue spectrum? It's healthy too, because this spectrum keeps your brain awake and active. I have had a wake-up light for years, after a few months, I just stopped waking up from it, but nothing wakes me as nicely as a blast of lightbeams from my terrarium. I added a few 23W fluorescent bulbs as well, to balance the spectra. 

Yeah, Yeah, I know, reptile enthusiasts will and should be angry with me now. Nobody in his right mind would use Neon or fluorescent bulbs due to their frequency. Reptiles are a bit slow, so they would see whatever you see when you try to take pics of a HPS lighted area; black bars. It all comes down to the frequency your camera can't handle. But I made my decision, that doesn't mean you should do it too. Be wiser than me, and use my advice!

So after a while the terrarium was finished. I made a little stealth grow cabinet beneath it, just for shits and giggles.

There I was, stuck with this beast of a terrarium and inside of it was just a little snake. The poor thing was barely 100cm in length. 

At that time, I was investigating cash crops. Like any plant enthusiast does sometimes. Just to try and get an idea of what makes the most money the easiest way. If you like plants like I do, every crop seems easy. It's just the scale that's a problem. So I decided to start small, and just fiddle with these things until I got the hang of it. And then, when I would become a rich man and move to the America's I would have all the knowledge and skills to do whatever needed to be done to support myself and a family.

Ah, do you remember the dreams of when you were just 21? How many of them came true? That's right. Same here.

A quick google search for vanilla turned up nothing in my own country. Who was I kidding, trying to find exotic vanilla orchids in the Netherlands?! After some time searching to no avail, I decided to go international. Heck! Did you know the German garden centers sell Vanilla orchids as regular house plants?! Who the hell would want a vine type orchid, that doesn't even flower in at least 4 years?

I did.

I ordered it and a little while later a package arrived with my very own vanilla orchid. I ordered another type of vanilla orchid, to maybe cross breed or see whatever would happen if the two would pollinate (or at least grow next to) each other. The second one died as fast as it arrived. 

The first orchid, is thriving in it's habitat. I'm getting to understand what type of roots form when, how and where. And the growth factors that make these things grow faster, taller and bigger are something I found out as well. 

As every snake owner would know, those animals ravage everything. Maybe on purpose, maybe just because they like climbing. That 'why' doesn't really matter, because within a few months I had to take my first cuttings. The snake leaned on the vine for climbing support, causing it to snap. Now I have two orchids. Just a week ago, I obtained my third one. Thanks to my serpent friend.. It's like he/she knows when the shoots are becomming too tall.

Where am I going with this story? I don't really know man. I just want to avoid doing chemistry and math by typing for too long. 

Well, I should be doing chemistry and math, I mean, come on! I replicated a study on endophytes (the bacteria that fix nitrogen from the air and provide it to plants in exchange for nutrients) and the work is almost done. Leaving me with a product that makes plants grow better, stronger and faster without addition of nitrogen to the soil. How awesome is that?! But sometimes, I just don't feel like it. That's me being a poor student; I fix stuff, I build stuff, I create stuff, I research stuff, but I don't have the money to do anything with it to get my investment back. But hey, I don't have debts either. That's the other side of the coin of course. Aaand I learn how to research with minimal amounts. Stay positive.


tl;dr: I built a terrarium and put an orchid inside.


For those who are interested, vanilla orchids care:

- pH: try to stay around 5.5-6.5 

- Sunlight: BLAST THEM!

- Humidity: the closer to 80% the better. Much higher would cause rot, lower would cause them to stand still.

- Temperature: 25-34 degrees C. Try to stay around 30. I noticed a significant growth speed (5-10cm per week) around those temps.

- Hormones to use: Trade secrets. I got them to grow faster, shorter, longer, more branched, less branched. Oh boy is that awesome to watch.

- EC: I don't know or measure this stuff. They like a nice amount of nutes every few months. Don't overdo it, that's the only advice. Stay around 50% of the cannabis EC and you'll be fine.

- Tapwater: Nah, don't use that. The salts in tap water will dry out the roots. Use rainwater instead.

- Don't try to bend them, if you have to, do it in stages, because they will snap and break.

- Cuttings: just take the vines with roots. Put one root in water, the rest against your preferred media (wall, branch, whatever). 

- Spraying: they love it. Rainwater, remember?

- Pests: none that I can find. Not even root eating nematodes/larvae.

- Sugar?! Yeah, sugar. The roots of every ( I hear you think: EVERY?!!?!!) yes, every orchid, are covered with fungi. These help the plant get to the nutrients locked in/on the substrate (how else would a plant growing on a tree trunk get its nutrients?). Give these fungi a little boost every now and then. Use a little honey, cane sugar, molasses or something like that in a foliar spray. Trust me. Or don't, it's your plant of course. And your sugar. Don't listen to people on the internet, they're not to be trusted. 

- What else? I don't know. You ask me.


Oh, of course. Pictures. Yeah, I forgot those on purpose. I can be lazy like that. That's why I love plants; they don't care if I forget something and they will just try to get it themselves. So many women could learn from plants.. 

Ok, ok, a bridge too far. I'm on a roll now, so I don't care. Please find some humor in this, my girlfriend is laughing out loud.


Relationship lessons from plants, for people:

- Never let a man freely pollinate on you. You'll never know what will come out of it.

- If someone pays a lot of money for you, give something in return or at least sit still and be pretty.

- Get your stuff for yourself if somebody forgets to bring it for you.

- The sun is free, use it.

- If you smell bad, you will be dumped. Exception: when you want to attract meat flies, or when look ridiculously pretty.

- If your roots are rotting, you're using too much water.

- Grow when you have the chance, not just when your caretaker wants you to.

- If you get a lot of attention, it means people care.

- Unopened flowers are not to be touched.

- Don't ever touch anything with unwashed hands. Especially reproductive parts!

- If it goes dormant, toss it, or leave it be.

- If someone sits through your defoliation process and still takes care for you, be grateful. (ok, that one might sting. But I wrote it down anyways.)

- Too much nutrients are bad for everything.

- If you need chemicals to make it work or grow, you're doing something wrong.

- When it looks sad, spray it with a hose and talk with it.

- Taking cuttings of a loved one is never a good idea unless you're absolutely sure it will regrow.

- Make good use of hormones, the bad ones and the good ones.

- If you claim a piece of nature, make sure you can care for it properly.

- Never make babies you can't give room to grow.

- Getting to know the basics is THE way to become an expert. Try a little bit. Experiment!

- Don't just stick it where the sun don't shine. Unless you both know what you're doing.

- If you want to involve someone else, make sure you're not doing illegal stuff.

- If the temperature is too low, make it warmer.

- Keep them in your heart and mind, and you will stay in theirs.


If you want to copy this and use it somewhere else, make sure you mention this page and/or my nickname. I did all the work making these things up, it's the least you could do.


Hey, thanks for reading! I hope you guys enjoyed it.

See you next time, hopefully with pics.

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 04:26 PM



by the way, if you're interested, I can give you an amazig input for vanilla.

If you cook it, let's say for vanillacreme or whatever, you can re-use the stick 2-3 times without loosing any taste!

You won't  have the black spots anymore like usual, but the taste will be still the same!


Greetings from a chef ;)

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 02:20 PM

Danke sehr Neptunechild.

I will remember that the next time I'll be messing around with it.



- Achievement unlocked! Coca holds no secrets to me any more.

- Achievement unlocked! Successfully germinated 3 types of orchids with funky flowers. Planning on scaling up and selling these.

- Achi- no. Successfully rooted miracle berry cuttings. 70% success rate. THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH! I'm planning and studying to be a plant scientist, I know I can do better.

- Germinating sassafras right now.. Well, I'm not doing the work, they do..

- Snakey the snake snapped off another piece of vanilla vine. That's so nice of him, now I have more! I found out they self pollinate (with some help) so I don't need genetically different plants. Which is nice.

- Successfully revegged Punisher #2, purple indisativa phenotype, true - actual - blueberry flavor.

- Ordered some more cannabis seeds for the summer. I'm searching for a flavor that has been lost, that flavor is like a good cow bouillon soup: greasy, salty, pungent and a bit like old sweat. The weed I used to get from dealers when I was young and stupid. The weed I can't find anymore ever since.

- Experimenting and documenting the death of the autoflower. What causes them to die? Why do they die as automatic as they flower? Is there a way around this? I need a better microscope..

- Waiting, and researching if bud sports can occur in cannabis. A bud sport is a local genetic mutation that causes the recessive traits to arise. This is just a waiting game, but if it happens, I could be competing with BC buds in the future. In my case, there would be no active genetic modifications, just what nature made happen on its own. Of course without nature, but with lamps. No hormones, no artificial nutrients, no transfections or whatever.


Anything else? I don't know. Maybe. Spring time is coming up! Oh I love it.

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 03:58 PM

About resistance and evolution


In 2010 or something, I got in to a verbal brawl with some forum owners about autoflowers. They were not just owners of the forum, but also the breeders of a undisclosed seed bank. Those guys did some awesome work on autoflowers and created wonderful strains. But when can you call a strain wonderful? When the palette is just right? When the yield is higher than average? When the plant is resistant to everything you throw at it?

I think it's a mixture of those three. But I noticed back then, and still do, that breeders claim they have the best plants for.. Let's say outdoors.. They claim they have the best plants for outdoors.


Knowing my pests, I asked about mildew, grey mold and stem rot. The answer was as shocking as I suspected: "They never had any stem rot, mildew or grey mold". 

How can a plant that is susceptible for these kinds of disease (some might call it nature) resist these kinds of diseases? 

"The breeding site is indoors, or outdoors in a glass housing, because we wouldn't be left with any plants if we grew them outdoors."

Oh right, so these guys claim they have the key to eternal healthy life, IF you stay inside a glass bubble. That's not how life should work now does it? You can't judge a fish on climbing a tree when there is no tree. You can't even judge a monkey that way! Sure, you can say that most likely the monkey will be able to climb it and the fish can't.. But how can you be sure?

"We are sure."

When I responded with: Everybody who is sure and makes claims about stuff they didn't test, is a shit breeder.

I got a shitstorm in response, and to be fair, I could have chosen my words more carefully.


That doesn't change the trend in cannabis (and fungi) world: we hunt for strains that taste great, that produce great, and we have pesticides and fungicides for everything else.

Compare it to raising a boy: you feed him and clothe him, but hey, the educational part is something we leave to the schools and the rest of the world to fix! Now a kid can be curious, and look for it's own ways. It doesn't always turn out bad.

But when you leave one of these pampered-breed cannabis plants out in the wild, they won't survive a month.


Of course plants are resistant to pests and fungi if you keep them in a sterile grow room, with a HEPA filter and a bucketload of germ-killers in the best environment there is. Of course these plants grow out to be the most yielding and forgiving plants around. I've seen grown men panic over leaving their plants on the dry side, or a few weird white spots on the stem, or a single day drop in temperature for that matter. This says a lot about the so called indestructible cannabis plant; it isn't as indestructible as we are being promised.

Everybody is focussed on short term results and nobody cares about quality, toughness and resistance in cannabis.


In '08 I grew a Taiga#2 from Dutch Passion. The thing never reached higher than a foot, the yield was about 5 grams of rotten dumpster weed. DP claimed this strain was well suited for the Dutch summers, and very, very forgiving. The pictures on their website showed a fairly large autoflower, load with buds. I fell for it.. A cotton candy would have lasted longer in the same pot, I'll tell you that. When looking back at those pictures, I saw the plant was grown in hydroculture, with fancy LED-lights and perfectly balanced nutrients. Yeah, it isn't hard to raise a prize winner like that! How about every other condition? They have no pictures of those, why not? I asked myself..


Recently I visited some of the bigger vegetable seed producers in the world. They have football fields of glass bubbles, where they introduce aggressive fungi, bacteria, molds and whatever nature could throw at a plant in the wild. They collect the survivors to create more resistant strains.

But in cannabis, it happens the other way around; breeders tend to keep their plants as infection free as possible and only focus on the result: seeds or buds. A plant that could fend for itself?! Why?! We get $10 per seed, and if the plant dies due to 'poor care and handling', we'll make another $10 for the next seed they buy!

Now that's not a bad thing, were it not that it's the freaking 2016's! Breeders have been around for 40 years now and still, all we (and they) care for is yield and taste.

"Oh, I need to spray 180 bucks worth of fungicides and insecticides to get a decent result?! Sure, oh wait, you sell those too? Awesome, put them in the cart next to my seeds!"


We collect landraces, heirlooms, whatnot, and those have survived whatever nature throws at them since the dawn of plants millions of years ago. Yet, instead of doing a selection on those traits, we focus on taste and yield inside a closed tent with light bulbs and a perfect climate. We take the nature out of nature, nurture the nature out of it, and call it nature. Then we call upon chemicals to prevent nature from entering our nurtured nature.


We do the same with fungi; whenever a plate is contaminated, we throw it out. No survivors, but the contaminant.. At least, that's what we think.

But after I found some old plates, I noticed that even cubes can conquer trichoderma. Fairly easy even.. It's just a matter of time until one spore with a mutation is the only one to survive in these harsh conditions, that's when the rest have died off and the mutation provides an advantage in the conditions. Evolution in a petri dish.. That's what happens in your compost bin, backyard or wherever you leave your contaminated plates.

Sure, it isn't pretty, and sometimes even dangerous! But we forget that it's useful too! A contaminant resistant strain is worth heaps of money, and we throw them out daily. Instead of looking for survivors, we bury them along with the dead. We're all pretty certain that evolution theories are correct (when interpreted as they should) yet we ignore the entire core of evolution in our own homes: when the environmental factors change, whether it's contaminants in a petri, or mildew in the backyard, only the favorably adapted species survive. And we throw them out because we think they're dirty. What the actual heck! I do it too! 

Sure, we don't want jars to contaminate, and we sure don't want to ruin our grow rooms/laboratories. But we forget the value of survivors at that same time. We don't want jars to contaminate, because our precious high yielding strains cannot withstand contaminants.. But what if we had both resistance and yield?! We can, in fact, have both! With relative ease. We just need to be prepared to make sacrifices.

And that's the issue with humans experimenting at home: we want it all, or nothing. Not possibly all or possibly nothing. I won't judge you because I work the same way but it's food for thought, don't you agree?


My message for the world today is:

Make good use of evolution, let a fuckup be worth something and make a change. Remember that some dude grew some tomato-hybrids in his backyard, and accidentally created the strain we eat every day at McD's, Subway, Burger King, and most other restaurants. The guy became a millionaire because an odd mutation caused his tomatoes to contain less water, and therefore spoil less easily.

Every setback in nature, is an opportunity to thrive for something that has favorable traits to that setback. Or maybe just by accident/coincidence something extraordinary appears. We should make use of that, instead of pampering our organisms until there's nothing left of the millions of years they have survived on their own. What's the harm? What do we have to lose? Generations from now, spores and plants will have adapted to the environments we put them in: sterile petri's and autoclaved jars. As with many organisms, unnecessary favorable traits to other-than-usual conditions will over time be deleted from the DNA.

Organisms aren't software that can be patched or updated afterwards. We need to get the basics right before we continue, and I think we're way ahead of ourselves. Sure, we can grow cubes that weigh 50 grams a piece, we can yield a kilo of buds from a single plant.. But still, after 60 years, we haven't found a solution to budrot because nobody wants to see plants die and pick up the survivors. And we still don't have cubes that secrete metabolites that prevent growth of other organisms even though we find those thriving in the wild.


I'm working on a student budget here, and will be for the next 2-3 years. If I have to throw money in a bottomless pit to eventually have my lifelong supply of super-resistant outdoor weed, it's all worth not going out binge drinking with friends for months. And I'll get there, that's for sure. Whether the rest of the world is with me, or wants to pamper their plants forever, is not my concern. I'm in generation 8 now, and results are promising with cannabis.

I've thrown out hundred of cubes petri's with a little yeast on the far side because I thought it wasn't supposed to look like that, right now, I wonder what I've missed letting them not have the battle for survival under my watchful eye. I might have missed the pandora's shroom that can be thrown in unsterilized jars in the open air (like oyster), maybe even the golden ticket to paradise.

Compared to raising a pampered kid like mentioned before and leaving the educational part to the world, when you kick him out of your house, you'll never know how he ended up.



Woah, that's a large piece of text. Well, I'll leave it for now, my English is decreasing with the time I type. 

I just wanted to speak my mind about this whole "Let's throw out everything we don't trust" culture. On a regular basis, my opinion isn't even that well defined; of course there are other sides of this coin and everybody has their reasons to do or not do things. I just want people to think about it for themselves, instead of blindly going with whatever the presented options are.

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 08:24 AM

The fool proof guide to coca cuttings.



- Agar (pure)

- Demineralised water 

- NAA dissolved in KOH solution

- Citric acid

- Activated charcoal

- Plant tissue containers (breathing)

- Plant preservative mixture

- Knife

- Chlorine solution (10% bleach, and a few drops of dishwasher soap) 250mL

- Dishwasher solution (20 drops) 250mL

- Sterile Demineralised water 250mL

- 70% Ethanol 250mL

- Sterile tweezers

- Sterile glovebox / flowhood / working area

- Sterile knife/boxcutter/scalpel/razor

- Sphagnum moss

- plastic pot

- Clonex / rooting dip




1. Select branches that are starting to form woody structures. Look for white-like spots on the branches; that's where the roots will come from. Too young or too old = bad luck, won't work. Select the thicker branches if possible, while they are still green. This is important, the time windows is small. Too soon, and they will not root. Too late and they will die / become infected.

2. Cut off the selected branches with a sterile knife, place them in the dishwashing soap solution. In the mean time..

3. Make agar

For 500 mL

  • 499mL demineralised water
  • 1.5mg/L NAA  -> in the end solution, depending on stock etc. calculate this for yourself
  • 1 mL plant preservative mixture -> helps against pathogens
  • 0.35 grams Activated Charcoal -> prevents/counters phenolic bleeding
  • (40 mg of citric acid with vitamin C) -> stops oxidation, helps pH. About 10 drops of supermarket pressed lime/citrus juice.
  • 3 grams of agar (labgrade)
  • Heat in microwave until dissolved
  • place/poor in Plant tissue container -> I use 1cm of media (height) per container. 
  • Sterilize for 20 minutes.
  • Leave to cool ( 2 hours?)
  • Place in glovebox, next to the branches in the solution

**** !!!!!!! from now on, work in a sterile environment !!!!!! *****


4. Take tweezers, place branches in 70% ethanol, for 3-5 minutes. Stir.

5. Place branches in 10% bleach solution for 5 minutes, stir. 

6. Wash branches in sterile water.

7. Place in containers, close containers.

8. Place in light condition, temperatures between 23-30 degrees C.

9. Wait for callus (lumps of cells) formation on the cut end of the branch. (can take 3 months, during that time, watch out for contamination. If contamination, repeat washing steps with added Plant preservative mixture in the sterile water)

10. If/When callus forms, open container a little. Make sure the plant doesn't dry out. Leave for max 5 days.

11. When acclimatized a little, take some sphagnum moss and put it in a seperate pot. Soak the shit out of it.

12. Take cutting out of the Plant container carefully, dip in rooting hormone solution (clonex for instance, don't use powders!).

13. Place in pot with sphagnum, put a ziplock baggie around it. Close it. Place in same light conditions as step 8.

14. When roots appear, look weekly by pushing the moss aside without agitating the plant itself, open the ziplock bag a little more every day until the plant is acclimatized.

15. When acclimatized, place in peat-based soil (pH around 4-5) with a well draining pot. Give rainwater only. 

16. Repeat process when plant is mature.


Did I say anything about cutting leafs off? No. Then don't do that. Did I mention anything else? No. So don't do that either. 

Do it like this, and it will work. Change this protocol, and you will lose your plant material. Yes... It can take 3-6 months for roots to appear. I have a success rate of 90% right now with this method.

This is not like fungus-agar, you just can't use tap water or anything other than the fore mentioned stuff. Like I said: if it isn't in this protocol, don't use it. I've been working on this for 2 years, if you want to go ahead and fuck it up yourself, don't come to me with questions or comments. If you have things dying, you must have done something wrong. If you want to change the protocol and have questions about it; go ahead and fail. I tried all other variations, and none of them work. Remember, this took me 2 years and at least 80+ cuttings before I got it right. Learn from my mistakes.

If you sprayed your plants with bacterial/fungal solutions for vitality or what not, spray them with ethanol and let it dry, right before taking cuttings.

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 02:00 PM

Remember the project White Rihanna? I wrote something about it somewhere above.

This is where I am now.

At least 11 nodes before it starts flowering. This is a 9L pot, with regular potting soil from a supermarket.

Stress resistant, 3 months of growing period, excellent dank smell. This will be the father of future generations.


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Aaand this will be the mother of the WR#3.

3 Months of growing. Then, automatic flowering. A great genetic backbone. I like the flavor on this family, but it's too zesty lemony when smoking. I'm aiming towards a more musky smell. This seems to be the year of the genetic jackpot though, because I found a rather complex hybrid (that according to Mendellian genetics would only occur in 25% of the cases) to be an autoflower, and at the same time with the smell and taste of my liking.

The breeding saga continues!

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 12:54 PM



Good job JanSteen, you did some awesome stuff. Didn't you?

Well, I'm proud. This AF is huge, forgiving and great for outdoors.


I crossed it back to something more flavorfull, is that a word? Well, something more delicious. So I have the next generations covered.

Seed harvest yielded around 400 seeds. So that's great.

The new cross yielded around 60 seeds from the other mother, the WR#2 (shown above) needs some more time to finish the seeds from the 'dad'.

I used a rare autoflower male from my P#2 collection (danky, musky, greasy, gasoline and rubber weed smell) to pollinate the WR#2 lady, and I used the WR#2 male to pollinate the best female from the P#2 autoflower collection.

The P#2 is like a flavor enhancer for every strain I've used it on. But the type is indica as much as indica can be: nuggets with the weight of gold, but also that same size.

See, here's a pic:


This pic was taken a week or two before harvest. Because, well, this plant is too dense. There is no aeration, and it will rot fast outdoors. Too bad though, because it has some purple in it. It was turning pink just before harvest. Some cold weather would've turned it completely purple. But it was 30 degrees C in that time. Anyhow, this was a great smoke. But yield was low. That's why I crossbreed. Also to introduce more of the sativa fluffyness into the strain. The WR#2 is more airy and has a waaaaay better immune system. It does rot, but it expels every damaged leaf immediately, closing the living parts of the plants off from the outside world. It rejects infections, instead of letting them pester/fester(?).

Or maybe I should call it backbreeding instead of crossbreeding? Because this plant shown here, has the same parental lineage as the WR#2 for at least the Autoflower part.


This WR#2 autoflower (mind you) yielded a bud harvest around 400 grams (no stems and seeds). This is quite the competition for regular flowerers. Just as intended. But the flavor needs to improve. That's something to work on the coming years. 

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Posted 24 September 2016 - 10:03 AM

Another one for in the books: if you like lush growth on coca plants, nutrients aren't just enough. They (and the microbial world below them) could use sugars and vitamins as well. But those things are hard to handle and difficult to dose. That's where my old ex-girlfriend comes in. We used to date a lot, more or less daily, but after 130 times one hot summer, our relationship ended. Now she sponsors people like Felix Baumgartner and sports-people. I couldn't care less. I'm talking of course about redbull. But most energy drinks that have copied the recipe do just as well. 125mL of energy drink per litre of water seems to do the trick. Lush growth, and good flower setting. It contains B-vitamins and other important stuff, besides from pH stabilizers (good thing for acid-loving plants) and sugars (general boosting stuff). There is a downside however, caffeine inhibits growth of some plants. But hey, you can't have everything. This seems to work, and a can costs me less than 40 cents. This makes me wonder, has anybody ever tried to make redbull agar? Fungi seem to love this stuff as much as plants do. I don't have any fungal projects right now, but it could be a good replacement for at least some types of agar. And it's cheap, already sterile and it doesn't need to be solved first! Maybe I'll do some tests with it on a later moment.
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