Good point, Mikey. Since I don't use spore syringes, I tend to mix my cake material slightly under field capacity in order to allow a full syringe of LI per half pint jar. This doesn't mess up the moisture content at all and I can get very fast colonization speeds doing this. I haven't used LI or LC with grain in a long while now, as I just like the simplicity of agar wedges to grain masters. But the concept is the same and I understand exactly what you are saying.
I find that using 20-40 ml used on some slightly under hydrated grain will get me fully colonized spawn in 5 days. Using grain that has been PC'd a lil on the dry side will absorb the excess water from so much inoculant. However one must give the freshly innoculated jars a few shakes to keep the water from pooling on the bottom. I think this really good conversation, because there are so many ways to cook grain, but there is not much mention of how the additional water from liquid culture can over hydrate your spawn. It is often seen with PF cakes too. Like the 2:2:1 ratio is perfect for adding a few drops of spores, but shoot a whole syringe of LC in there people will often see more problems with stalling and bacteria contamination than normal. Sandy to answer your question, my perception of a shit ton of LC is approximately one 20ml syringe full.
Hey mikey! Curious what you consider a shit ton, how much LC do you use per quart jar or bag or whatever you do?
Plus when one is using an LC I find one can be more liberal with the amount of moisture that one adds, as the myc fluid is completely myceliated. In a spore syringe the spores are suspended in water, in an LC the entirety of the fluid has mycelium. My theory is that the myc milk in its entirety is all a jumping off point that the potential colony will utilize more efficiently as opposed to spore water which saturates the cake. Does that make sense to y'all?
Plus as catattack/catsandbats devotees know, I'm a proponent of "too dry". It's just like cooking, one can always add more salt while cooking, in home mycology one can always add more moisture, it's way harder to subtract. Gnomesaying?!
Edited by CatsAndBats, 24 April 2017 - 07:00 PM.