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Posted 23 February 2017 - 06:05 PM

Perhaps we are getting answers from the author? A quick review of Slaughter House Five might give insight.
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Posted 23 February 2017 - 10:34 PM

ummm....his mailing address is pasted all over his websites regarding "The Rose".....and says that correspondence is always welcome, including free editing of college papers and literal works.....so if one really wanted to get in touch with Pickard, it's really not too hard....

 

I thought about making contact, then I considered this thread, and certain characteristics of certain handles that led me to believe that not a thing was learned from the use of this molecule......The Ego is still very much at large(as I notice a certain amount of encouraged stroking resides here in the wording of certain handles responses).....but alas, I digress, as nothing is for certain....

 

and I'm a quarter of the way through chap. 7....It is exactly what it is, a rendition of a story written by Borges, except, backwards being told by the apprentice as opposed to the teacher....whether there's anything cryptic within remains to be seen, as I didn't personally live the life of the author, so all it is, is a really well written book on a subject that interests me, and the author has a very large vocabulary....which is to be expected of a Harvard graduate....one would think...


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Posted 01 March 2017 - 12:59 AM

Fungi's thought that The Rose is a rendition of a story told by Borges, except backwards from the apprentice to the alchemist, is a unique view, but may not address the vast storyline of The Rose. Borges's  story is 1500 words, on the reconstruction of a rose cast into a fireside at the mention of a word by Paracelsus. The Rose, by contrast, is over 200,000 words and crossing many topics, cultures, setting and characters. Ultimately, the only reference to the Borges story is in an interview on a Basel mountaintop (much later in the work), in which chemist Indigo explains why Borges's short story applies to the motives of the Six (but we're not there yet in this discussion). The Rose bears no other relationship to Borges story, for the themes, actions and narratives are highly varied even while they have many bases in fact. Remarkably, though, in the Author's Note, Leonard proposes applying the mannered language of Borges (not only in his short story, but across his canon of works) to a "drug-trafficking organization" - certainly the first time this has been done (most modern writings on drugs are in the vernacular). Classical, learned, Victorian. How unusual.
 
Dani, I will try to reach you to propose some questions for Leonard, limited to the chapters we have already discussed. While he may be reachable by email or letter with care and patience, he has done only one online interview in 16 years (see theinfluence.com/the-acid, July 29, 2016). A Q&A on Topia would be a rarity.
 
February is closing, and we are on Chp 8 (Von Neumann's Playground). Would love to hear from Bernhole and Sidestreet and others on this one, which is replete with many poetic phrases. The Von Neumann story is visionary, erotic, in the end filled with pathos (especially about the feral little girl - unforgettable). Notice the parallel to the abused child in Kathmandu in the prior chapter. What are your fave lines/scenes in this? Some of my favorites, in this wild chapter ranging from Princeton to mathematics to seduction to a psychedelic atomic detonation to the sad story of an isolated, dysfunctional girl:
 
"Yet Cobalt began to whisper - in a accelerating terms as he approached the light-speed transmission of the Six - fragments of the past and future at the edges of one's grasp." (206)
 
"... and that past the barriers of comprehension they somehow found each other and embraced." (205)
 
"In a world where governments still harbored the conceit they could keep secrets, our many watchers within every facility laughed." (208)
 
"The ripples at the edge of vision became undone into trigonometric functions, sine waves crashing across the tranquil arbors and mirrored surfaces of the lake." (208)
 
"In the end, there was only a soundless purity, a gossamer feather lifting into nothingness." (208).
 
Question: Was the girl in Firestone library an operative of the Six? What do you think? We now have met five of the SIx - where will The Rose go next?
 
Fungi, the events/scene/sentences that spoke to you in prior chapters? Side Street, your faves from "Von Neumann's Playground"? Bernhole, we hardly can wait. Others on Von Neumann? Rumor is that The Rose will be discussed at psy conferences this summer. This forum is the first.
 
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Posted 01 March 2017 - 01:21 AM

Sorry, PsyBearKnot, questions then go to you. Hope Dani is well.
 
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Posted 13 April 2017 - 01:28 PM

as pink floyd asked on its album The Wall.......

 

Is there anybody out there?  



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 06:53 PM

Perhaps Mr. Derby got caught with a teapot that wasn't his?

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 11:54 PM

Perhaps Mr. Derby got caught with a teapot that wasn't his?

 

I am not in this, not having read this book, but I recognize a Slaughterhouse Five reference.   Hmmm?

 

On edit:  Poor Edgar Derby's moniker has slipped past me all this time.  Po tee weet.


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Posted 17 April 2017 - 11:31 PM

as pink floyd asked on its album The Wall.......

 

Is there anybody out there?  

 

Good to see you back, Bernhohl. We've missed your excellent insights and careful reading of The Rose. In the interim, I posted a few fave lines from the Princeton chapter ("Von Neumann's Playground"), and a memory of the tragic girl described at the end. The altered states in this chapter are among the very best so far. What are your most memorable lines and events in Von Neumann? What parts of the writing spoke to you?
 
Read the new interview on The Rose with Leonard (April 16, 2017) at:
 
Our discussion group is the first and most detailed. Thank you Bernhohl, Side Street, Steampunk, and other new readers.
 
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 10:54 AM

all right.....good to see our campfire here still has some burning embers.  with a little stirring, i'm sure we can bring it back to a nice little blaze.  

 

yes, the oak tree interview with henrik dahl and leonard is most illuminating and must reading for those of us who are seriously into The Rose.  by all means, folks, check it out, and see where it leads you.  

 

and this week, an event of importance in the context of psychedelic history took place.  the great chemist and psychedelic outlaw nick sand died on 4-24.  sounds like it was a classically pleasant passing, as nick appears to have faded to black in his sleep at age 75.  one of the truly great chemists EVER, the cops who chased and harassed him more than once commented on the purity of his products, whether they be LSD, DMT, or any of his many "designer" chemicals that drove the heat crazy.  was nick one of The Six?  well, THAT may be a bit too easy and simplistic.....but he certainly would have had much to talk about if he'd ever sat down for a cup of coffee with Indigo or Cobalt, sharing with them both a love of alchemical craft and a love of freedom, since nick managed to flee to canada and avoid U.S. cops for 20 years after he and partner Tim Scully were busted for the massive production of perhaps the most famed psychedelic ever, Orange Sunshine. ah, they don't make em like Nick Sand any more.....or do they?  anyway, a GREAT way to honor Sand's passing would be to watch the wonderful documentary on Sand and Scully called The Sunshine Makers.  avail now on netflix.  must viewing for anyone who wants to conflate themes from The Rose with the reality of psychedelic history. 

 

i have pleasant memories of seeing Nick at the Entheogenic Camp at Burning Man in 2006.....he gave a talk one afternoon on his favorite combinations.....he really liked combining MDMA and LSD and had some tips in terms of when exactly to use which for maximum effects......also speaking that day were the Shulgins.......and Alex and Allyson Grey......it was quite a day in The Head Tent, for sure. Nick obviously had a lot of experience in this field, and shared his insights, research and findings with enthusiasm.  he obviously relished being in a place like B Man, filled as it was with numerous comrades in the pursuits of interior revelations and ecstasies.   

 

indeed, if anyone wants to belatedly celebrate Bicycle Day, watching that Sand/Scully flick would be a great way to do so......you DID remember Bicycle Day, yes?......i mean, all that bullshit about April 19th with Columbine and Oklahoma City can't ever besmirch the true beauty, power, and significance of 4-19-43......and a GREAT way to truly honor Bicycle Day is easy for us here in this forum......(1) read the oak tree interview with dahl/pickard (2) watch the Sunshine Makers (3) keep on keepin on with the reading of The Rose AND telling people about this very special and skull expanding book........

 

the beat goes on.......and on.....and on.....and om.......and om.......


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 09:37 AM

Regarding the passing of Nick Sand:
 
See Leonard's poem in memory of Nick on Twitter @walking_rain.
 
Good for retweeting/sharing.





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