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#21 Coopdog

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Posted 06 May 2016 - 01:14 PM

Very active dreamscape last night. It started in a very active place like an Indian Casino. Lots of people, and different things to do and see. I was going from room to room when I came into a huge cavernous warehouse where I was supposed to run a crane. I went up into the crane like 400 ft off the ground and moved some stuff around using a 100 foot spreader bar. Things kept going wrong with the crane like it moving in the wrong direction on it's own. I went down again and through a door into a large place like a movie theater and Pink FLoyd The Wall was playing. I kept going and behind the screen was another door that opened into another huge warehouse like space and I once again found myself in the crane. Something happened and my huge spreader bar was spinning like a helicopter blade.

 

I came down and there was a huge bay door that opened onto a body of water. There were many planes in the sky. I found myself lost and could not find my way back to the casino where my family was. I wandered through one huge space after another aimlessly and there was activity in each one, either moving something with a crane that kept having problems or physical labor moving heavy things. Finally I found myself in the space behind the movie theater, and was able to see that The Wall was still showing, although I was seeing it from the back I heard "And there will be nobody home" on the sound system and knew what scene it was where he was about to smash up the guitars and tear the place up.

 

I found my way back to the casino and found my kids who were like 9 and 11 in this dream. They would not listen to me and were getting into all sorts of stuff and giving me stress. I found that we were in an audience to see someone speak and everyone was quite excited about it. When the guy came out on stage it was Adolf Hitler, and I did not want my kids to see that madman speak and started to leave, but my oldest was arguing that we should stay and how culturally significant it would be to see him actually speak. I insisted we leave anyhow.

 

Found ourselves in a place that people were not supposed to be, like a temple of sorts. Kept seeing people in brown robes and we stood out as we were not wearing anything like that. Went through another door and once again was in the cavernous warehouse space and I thought I would take my girls up into the crane to see what I do, but worried that they would fall from the huge long ladder we were climbing to get up there. I was trying to smoke a joint and climb at the same time.

 

Many more details to this dream than I can remember now. Crazy long involved dream. I often dream of running a crane and things going wrong as I have ran a crane a lot of my life, and much of that time was in a foundry where things did go wrong fairly often. It made a big impression on my subconscious I guess.


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 04:32 PM

In the 15min of sleep I had last night, i had a dream about my dad, he died about 3 years ago. I find it comforting  to know the people i care about that have passed can visit me in a dream, and hopefully i will be able to do the same after i  pass.

 

Ive only had one disturbing dream about him since he has past, but the rest i treasure and am glad to have them.


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 06:54 PM

I have lost most of my family over the years. I have "visits" at least weekly. It is just another part of my dream cycle.

For the last 3 nights, I have been having dreams with water as a main symbolic element.

Last night was the best of the series.

 

I was walking on an unpaved road. Not sure where I was but I was trying to find a building for shelter I had seen a sign for a ways back. As I came around a corner, I could see the ocean. It was very choppy like during a storm and the sky was sunless. I walked down and got on the sand. As I watched the horizon, there was a huge flash. The light was multicolored and shifted like heat wave distortion. There was no sound from this, just the waves and a few seagulls. There were no people anywhere, it was just me and I felt horribly alone.

 

As I watched the light fade, I could see a huge tidal wave coming. There was no where to run, but I was not afraid. When the wave came to the shore, it was over 100 feet tall, and within the water of the wave, I could see the multicolored light, like aurora but in the water. It hit me and I was thrown all around in the turbulance. I can breath underwater in my dreams, so I was not afraid of drowning, but I could not see or find the surface.

 

I kept going deeper, swiming but more like moving without effort. I was going deeper but could see light in the deepest water, very distant and shifting with the same changing colors and getting brighter as I got nearer.

 

There were then schools of fish moving around me, large and all different shades of blue and green. They were moving me, not aggressive but like bumping and pushing, towards this now light area. As I got closer I could see it was the most beautiful city, with spires and domes. The light shifted and moved in a most beautiful and slow flowing way, all over the buildings. The fish had brought me here, and left now. 

 

I came to the edge of the closest dome, and watched the colors flow over the surface lke a soap bubble. As I reached out to touch it to see how it felt, my hand went through, and I found myself inside. It was a city, full of tall tapered buildings with roads suspended in curves every where connecting all the towers. The citty was full of people. They did not speak, but I could understand them.

 

A young man came to me, and his eyes were like mirrors, but very deep. He asked me to come with him, and said we needed to get Kalidascope eyes for me. I was led into a building through immense arches, and within there was another city, inside the tower we had entered. It felt like there were no real walls. We found a vendor and I picked some beautiful blue and violet kaleidoscope eyes. I did not know how to put them in, or if they were like a contact lense. He smiled and told me without talking, that I already knew how to use them, I put my hands over them and closed my eyes. They were simply there without touching them. I was ecstatic and felt I belonged here. I could see the surface of everything I looked at, but all the levels within at the same time. I wanted to stay here, but i was pulled out of the dream in an instant. The clock said 12:47 . I almost cried it was such a beautiful dream, and I did not want it to be over. I do not understand why I seem to wake most every night at 12:35, or 12:47.

 

I could not get back to the dream and had at least 3 others during the night, but not that I remember much from. It was the water dream that was intense and fully detailed.

 

I want to go back..........................................


Edited by Skywatcher, 06 May 2016 - 09:06 PM.

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Posted 07 May 2016 - 01:54 AM

Two fridays before tonight I had a normal dream about every day life. I had a yard, and a dwelling to live in, and I was in my garden, weeding, pruning, and harvesting when I walked up on three inky caps that were partly already inky. That's all I remember in my dream was staring at these three deteriorating mushrooms in my garden. I woke up, researched the dream. It can have several meanings.. One being foolish love, another being a detrimental health issue. I didn't read too much into it, I thought maybe I was lusting towards my future grow that I was planning. Sunday morning I woke up violently throwing up, unable to keep down water, nausea meds, and of course food. After hours of dry heaving, I went to the emergency room and had test ran, cat scans ran, etc. (I have health problems that could kill me if my immune system is under attack)

They couldn't find anything wrong. I didn't have food poisoning or anything, just violently ill for no reason, and I attribute it to that dream. I've always been a dream reader, some I feel more than others, but this one was legit weird.


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Posted 09 May 2016 - 01:11 PM

Last night I had a very long and detailed dream about a zombie apocalypse of sorts. Man I hate the zombie fascination and never watch that stupid stuff. (No offense if you do :) ) but in my dream first we got overrun with these insects like silverfish or small crickets. They infested everything and it was impossible to lay down and get rest or sleep because they literally covered everything, and they STANK. Pretty soon people started acting weird and then flipped out everywhere sort of all at the same time.

 

Even the animals lost their minds. I don't know if it was some pathogen related to the bugs or straight up lack of rest. I remember thinking once we got across this big bridge that things may be better over on the other side, but it wasn't long until the bugs showed up over there too, and I knew all was lost. This guy was showing me this lizard that ate these bugs but then the lizard started acting all strange and I killed it too and the guy was mad as hell and came after me and I had to run. I tried to tell him that it was acting wrong just like the people.

 

 Crazy ass long involved dream as well.


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Posted 10 May 2016 - 11:46 AM

Hmmm, Mercury is in retrograde.


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Posted 10 May 2016 - 04:50 PM

Hmmm, Mercury is in retrograde.

Alder, I do not follow astrological signifigance at all. Could I show my lacking understanding, and ask what this signifies?

Maybe even ask if you have a site that might clarify the meanings of the planetary positions, movements, and........ ?


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Posted 10 May 2016 - 05:32 PM

^^ I second this ^^

 

I have a genuine interest. It is my understanding that the alignment of the planets - in a row toward the sun, in a line on either side - in opposition as in a tug-of-war, approaching and retreating....... All of these situations create effects in what we have come to call "gravitation". This might even make an excellent side thread if it was a serious comment.

 

Lay some learning on us Alder.

 

Back to the subject of dreaming. I haven't recalled any other dreams but I am aware that I have them now. They are like an elusive thought upon awakening - that name you know but cannot quite recall.

Skywatcher shared earlier how to procure and program a dreamstone. I have not had the presence of mind to properly commit myself to the task. I certainly posses some worthy candidates but my head-space is not where it needs to be for this type of exercise. Lately, I'm laying waste to some old bad habits. Count me among the non-smokers again. I'm just hoping, perhaps, to exercise, workout, (mentally as opposed to hitting the gym) and build up to lucid dreaming. Reality manifestation experiments - being the change stuff. I firmly believe that we posses awesome, unrealized power and that we don't need "machines" to accomplish physical effect in our world. 


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Posted 10 May 2016 - 08:25 PM

Back to the subject of dreaming. I haven't recalled any other dreams but I am aware that I have them now. They are like an elusive thought upon awakening - that name you know but cannot quite recall.

Skywatcher shared earlier how to procure and program a dreamstone. I have not had the presence of mind to properly commit myself to the task. I certainly posses some worthy candidates but my head-space is not where it needs to be for this type of exercise. Lately, I'm laying waste to some old bad habits. Count me among the non-smokers again. I'm just hoping, perhaps, to exercise, workout, (mentally as opposed to hitting the gym) and build up to lucid dreaming. Reality manifestation experiments - being the change stuff. I firmly believe that we posses awesome, unrealized power and that we don't need "machines" to accomplish physical effect in our world. 

You are going the right way Myc. This is something that you want to do without distractions. You are setting the groundwork  now. You will know when you are ready (with perhaps a little nudge from the part of you that likes to say quit procrastinating)

 

The usage will yield results, but they come in building progression, not any faster than you apply focus on the process. I suggest to work on recall first. You can then have something to understand the meanings and symbolisms. Later you will find it easier to move into lucid states with some practice and a few more techniques.

 

Dreaming with purpose, is really just one more way we can use intent to alter our being.



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Posted 10 May 2016 - 11:22 PM

I am not hard into astrology, but it hit me many years ago that I, as person, did not exist apart from all that is, physical and otherwise.  And so, there could be something to this astrology stuff.

 

Mercury in retrograde happens frequently and is nearly always in whatever sun sign is present.  The astrologers note that this seems to bugger around with our activities and intentions here on Mother Earth.  That Zombie dream seemed to fit as we are in the middle of a Mercury retrograde, and Mercury did a visible transit across the face of the Sun yesterday. 

 

Here's a page I clicked when I searched yesterday to see where we stand in this current retro:

 

http://www.astrology...e-calendar.html


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Posted 10 May 2016 - 11:43 PM

I discount nothing Alder. Thank you for elaborating. Now I see I need to do some self education........


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 03:26 AM

Man, I just stumbled upon this thread. Great thread!

Dreams fascinate me immensely. Has anyone every had a lucid dream? I am no expert on it, but have had several and they are very cool. Just like in the Leonadro Decaprio (I can't remember the name of it) movie if you look at your hands while dreaming, you will always have extra or lacking fingers. Mine have only lasted a few minutes, but you really can control your dreams if you realize you are dreaming. It makes me wonder, if one were to master lucid dreams, could you possibly delve into your subconscious or perhaps open up old forgotten memories stored deep in your hippocampus?

The last lucid dreams I had, happened 2 times in the same sleep period. I woke up inside my dream and couldn't open my eyes. Something cued me that I might be dreaming and I immediately thought "check your hand". I did and saw 8 fingers then like a light bulb going off in my head, I instantly knew I was dreaming. I wanted to fly and check on my wife and newborn, so I flew to the sealing opened all doors with my mind and hovered over the bed where they both slept. The second one started the same way, but this time I decided to be more selfish and wanted to have some "adult time" with Jennifer Aniston. So I was instantly taken to a bed where, well we had adult time lol.

It's a pretty cool phenomenon that I didn't believe in before it actually happened to me. I hardly ever have them, and don't always completely control them, but I can see if you were to master them, you could do some amazing things within your own subconsciousness.

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Posted 11 May 2016 - 06:47 AM

I'm not very good at lucid dreaming, I can tell I'm dreaming a lot, but when i realize I'm in a dream i wake up. another way to tell a friend told me is you really cant read in a dream, and the writing isnt really writing, it just shapes that look like writing. the first time I encountered this i was looking at a pepsi machine from far away in a dream and decided to take a closer look and found it wasnt really writing that said pepsi, just shapes that looked like it.


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 01:31 PM

I am a lucid dreamer. I began that process the same way that you can begin to improve the recall of your dreams, by keeping a pen and paper, or a digital recorder right by your bed so as soon as you bounce back from having a dream to being awake you can record the contents of that dream. It doesn't take long at all to very much improve your dream recall, and be prepared because we dream of all sorts of weird stuff so don't be surprised if you are having some twisted imagery :)

 

I came across a site a while back that illustrated the concept of astrology in the most understandable format I had seen. I will see if I can dig it up again. I think I shared it on facebook so it might be something I can dig back up with some effort.

 

Lucid dreaming is a hard thing to master and not sure if that is even possible. Lucid dreams come only occasionally. I usually don't feel the need to take control of a dream and just ride it out and watch most of the time. However if my dream starts to take a dark or uncomfortable turn I can just step in and say nope, not this time, and go in another direction, or give myself the magical ability to deal with whatever the threat is. I often meditate on whole earth healing before I sleep and this seems to continue into my dreamscape from time to time, and I truly believe that is when I am doing the most good.

 

Adult time is just an added benefit of this. Lucid dreaming is a very interesting thing to play around with and a really good thing to have in your skillset. :) The best time to lucid dream is when you have already slept for a few hours and wake up in the middle of the night, maybe to go to the bathroom or whatever. Your body needs 6-8 hrs sleep but your brain can be quite active after only a couple hours sleep. When I was working on this skill I would set an alarm for 4 am and only wake up enough to turn it off and reset it for my usual wake up time. I had some very vivid dreams in those few hours between.

 

Peace...


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 03:48 PM

I have read a lot about lucid dreaming after I had a couple of them. And you are right about the meditation, setting the alarm clock, and sleep journal. All are supposed to be done to better grasp lucid dreaming. I only heard about it from my cousin who spoke with someone claiming to be a lucid dreamer. He just told me to say a mantra evey night as I was falling asleep "check your hands". So I did for a couple of months evey night with nothing but regular standard dreams bad and good. But one morning, it came to me in a dream and I did it. I really thought it was BS to be honest, but kept at my mantra anyway.

Anyway I never have a complete control and perhaps you are right about not being able to master it, but I have read some sources where individuals claim to be able to completely control their dream reality, but who knows. I no longer say the mantra, but occasionally, I sense something is not what it seems to be and my first response is to check my hands.

Still a very cool thing IMO.

I'm glad to hear you are also a lucid dreamer, Coop.
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Posted 11 May 2016 - 04:05 PM

yeah the hand thing im not sure if it ever worked for me, but i know your suppose to count your fingers on your hand ever time the think about when your a wake, makes it habit so you do it while your dreaming. I had count fingers  written on my hand with magic marker at one point.


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Posted 12 May 2016 - 01:49 AM

My dreams are in vivid Technicolor, and I have the same amount of fingers in my dreams as I do now. It is very easy to give yourself a subconscious suggestion, such as "check your hands" and create this phenomena for yourself. My mantra was "I will remember my dreams" and in short order, when you realize you are dreaming, your waking mind starts to pay attention. When the conditions are just right, both can happen at once. I found that if I have too much lucid dreaming, I am not getting the rest I need, and I find myself exhausted in my waking life.

 

When I get too caught up in my Whole Earth Healing meditations, I find I am very tired in my waking life. Your waking mind needs to rest and let autopilot take over for a while and I think it is rather like your conscious receiver changes channels twice a day, or your very polarity changes from positive to negative in the consciousness stream. I think that both realities are very real. I find it a fascinating topic and one that deserves to be delved into by everyone out there. You can find a whole other universe you can visit every night. I fall asleep nearly every night with the intention to dream lucidly, but the majority of the time I am just a spectator. The benefits come when the dream takes an uncomfortable turn and at that point I can take the wheel and steer it in a direction that I want to go.

 

I am very grateful for having this experience. :)


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Posted 17 May 2016 - 02:45 PM

I had a horrific nightmare recently.

 

I couldn't be certain whether or not I was locked in a terrible dream or if it was reality.

 

I was seeing things that were not there, hearing voices telling me horrible things, feeling the touch of something dark and frightening.

 

I kept fighting it, telling myself that this can't be real, but it took everything within me just to hold on.

 

I woke, I can't recall how many times, screaming, punching the walls, breaking glass, my hands bruised and bloody, shouting at the top of my lungs. I would then think "Goodness, it was just a nightmare!" and drift back to slumber, only for it to begin again, and again, and again.

 

I finally woke up to reality, but I was so shaken it took a while for it to sink in that it really was a nightmare.

 

This was shortly after my last inpatient psychiatric hospitalization so it really rattled me good. It all seemed so real.


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Posted 20 May 2016 - 01:33 AM

Have you ever tried to practice lucid dreaming? I used to have some terrible dreams from time to time, but learning how to control my dreamscape helped with that immensely. Not that it is 100%, because your subconscious can still throw you a curve ball from time to time.


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Posted 20 May 2016 - 04:37 PM

Coop:

 

I never have, no, however, there have been several times where I did sort of realize "This must be a dream" and I was able to actively, purposefully interact in it and do some stuff.

 

I actually like my dreams taking me for a ride.

 

It was actually some other crazy nightmares I was able to actively take hold of and break out of, believe it or not.

 

So somehow I occasionally do experience lucidity during dreaming, but mostly I don't.

 

I'm cool with how things are, though. It's just interesting that I have been able to break out of some bad dreams and take control and, very rarely, realize I am dreaming in other more odd dreams and take active participation to a certain degree, but there is always a certain amount of non-control, but that's what I love about my dreams.

 

I don't think I'd like to have full lucid control of my dreams in any way. I like having them be a bit odd and edgy. :cool:

 

You know, lately, the dreams I do remember and can sort of participate in, well, I've met some amazing women. So interesting. I wonder if that means, after 3 or 4 years, maybe now I am open to possibly meeting a new woman to get to know as a friend or maybe more.

 

The dreams are always just flirting, cuddling, nothing sexual. Just lots of great talking, deep discussion, shared interests, really, really creative, energetic women.

 

So yeah. Maybe it's time to go out and meet more people again. I'm sure I'll find someone again, but this time I hope it's a more artistic, intellectual, open-minded sort of person for either friendship or, maybe down the line, deeper emotional companionship.

 

At least any of my dream women are always super smart, artistic, familiar with the psychedelic experience even if they don't partake often or at all, and are just, well... CREATIVE types that love nature.

 

If I'm cool meeting such people in my dreams maybe what I really want right now in my life is just to connect with women online as friends to talk to? I don't know. Dreams can be interpreted in so many ways. I don't really feel that I want a new real-world relationship as such, but I just crave that connection, sharing art, poetry, ideas, experiences.

 

I don't know.

 

Now you got me thinking. Hmm.

 

Yeah. Friends would be awesome! But flirting is OK. :ph34r:


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