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#1 PsyBearknot

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 11:29 PM

An interesting argument against Bone Meal

http://www.gardenmyt...nic-fertilizer/

Most notably for many of us using King stropharia

Excess phosphorus inhibits mycorrhizal fungi (ref 1) – which are an important part of the soil ecosystem.


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Posted 07 April 2016 - 06:29 AM

Interesting
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#3 Heirloom

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 10:19 AM

other arguments have been made against the use of bonemeal due to the possibility of mad cow prions.


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Posted 07 April 2016 - 11:17 AM

As well as attracting animals who eat bone.
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Posted 07 April 2016 - 12:37 PM

Prions are molecules that have the ability to change the shape of other molecules they come in contact with , replicating themselves while not being alive.

First postulated  by a mathematician in the 1950's, who was then laughed out of work  disappeared from acadamia ,decades later he was proven to be right. A person ahead of his time by decades.

prions cannot be destroyed by cooking or common sterilization methods . the best way to destroy prions is to heat the molecule  so hot it breaks apart, cows with mad cow have been killed and lowered into molten iron to dispose of them.

There is concern these prions could be  picked up by plants as they absorb nutes and make their way into the food chain again.

 The method currently used to prevent prion contamination is to not produce cattle feed that contains cattle by products , avoiding cannabilism from man made feeds that spread this to cattle and to deer that come in to eat cattle food .

Also cattle are harvested before they can build up prions in their body.

The USDA does not want cattle producers to certify their beef madcow free by lab tests as this might ruin the beef market.

organic growers wee laughed at now those who laughed pay a premium price for organic food.
so much more to say but you guys know already.
 


Edited by Heirloom Spores, 07 April 2016 - 12:55 PM.

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 04:20 PM

Damn and damn heirloom
I put about 5lb of blood meal in the garden last year and my hydro phosphorus is derived from bone meal.

I as a matter of fact was gonna put the hydro bone meal on a couple cactus to see how they take it. I spose thats ok since im not eating them.
Damn prions
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Posted 07 April 2016 - 04:40 PM

I got warned from reading several cannabis grow books ( Jorge Cervantes ) and don't know the real danger anyone faces. I got blood & bone meal my self.

 Don't be scared off by my comments , research for yourselves and let us know.

I know there have been warnings about rock phosphate.

I know this was started to help growers become aware of excess phosphorus inhibiting beneficial  fungal growth.



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Posted 07 April 2016 - 04:47 PM

I got warned from reading several cannabis grow books ( Jorge Cervantes ) and don't know the real danger anyone faces. I got blood & bone meal my self.
 Don't be scared off by my comments , research for yourselves and let us know.
I know there have been warnings about rock phosphate.
I know this was started to help growers become aware of excess phosphorus inhibiting beneficial  fungal growth.


For sure man once i start reading its hard to get me to stop i am gonna look in to what you've said.
Pechiate the information
When my life gets dull i can always count on yall here to inspire me... cheers
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Posted 07 April 2016 - 05:29 PM

Very interesting indeed.

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 06:29 PM

I got warned from reading several cannabis grow books ( Jorge Cervantes ) and don't know the real danger anyone faces. I got blood & bone meal my self.
 Don't be scared off by my comments , research for yourselves and let us know.
I know there have been warnings about rock phosphate.
I know this was started to help growers become aware of excess phosphorus inhibiting beneficial  fungal growth.


ActuLy the thought was a general discussion about nutrients and additives
The good
The bad
The myths

The bone meal is what brought the idea up. Instead of just a bunch of threads of the different nutes and adds in the urban Gardner vs 1 big thread about everything nutes and adds.

We are a small forum right now so we don't have the sections other forums do and was just thinking of keeping it clean and organize round here.
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#11 Heirloom

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 07:09 PM

Any info on how to increase mycorrihizal  fungi ?



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Posted 07 April 2016 - 07:47 PM

this was a good read

http://www.motherear...a-zbcz1403.aspx

We ARE DIY diehards !

Lots of info came from teaming with microbes book

Edited by PsyBearknot, 07 April 2016 - 07:49 PM.

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 08:28 PM

 

 

Lots of info came from teaming with microbes book 

Great book.


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Posted 08 April 2016 - 05:58 AM

It's on my list to read.
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