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#1 sedaeng

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Posted 02 July 2016 - 07:45 PM

http://www.zerohedge...hillary-clinton

 

"And as you might have guessed, there are major inconsistencies with Ashe’s death. It was not only conveniently timed because Ashe died just a few days before being set to testify against Clinton in a corruption case, but official reports indicated he died of a heart attack. The problem, however, is that police on the scene reported Ashe died when his throat was crushed during a work-out accident."

 

Let the bodies hit the floor... Clintons favorite song while showering...


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#2 BlackPeter17

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Posted 02 July 2016 - 08:30 PM

yikes!



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Posted 03 July 2016 - 07:37 AM

http://www.snopes.co...illary-clinton/

 

 

WHAT'S TRUE: Former UN Official John Ashe died in June 2016 at his Dobbs Ferry home. His death was initially misreported as a heart attack rather than an accident, and he was about to begin pre-trial meetings related to corruption charges at the time he died.

 

WHAT'S FALSE: Ashe's corruption trial wasn't set to begin just days after his death, and he wasn't going to testify against Hillary Clinton.

 

 

Moreover, the U.S. District Attorney's spokesperson told us that no portion of Ashe's court case pertained to Hillary Clinton. Not only was he not set to testify against Clinton five days before he died, neither was he slated to do so at any point during the trial. A copy of the 5 October 2015 complaint against Ashe and several co-defendants (which involved Ashe's taking bribes from developer David Ng to support one of Ng's real estate projects at the U.N.) can be located here [PDF].

 

Though it is interesting that a high-level official would die in a bizarre accident before a corruption case involving an apparently wealthy real estate developer... 


Edited by Sidestreet, 03 July 2016 - 07:59 AM.

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#4 sedaeng

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Posted 03 July 2016 - 08:52 AM

Man, thought everything on the interwebs was true :/

So the Clintons do not get this one tied to their names, unfortunately there are plenty of others during their career :P

What really sucks about this, is the website that published this article had just lost a few notches of credibility with me.... Gets tiresome having to verify stories all the time.

Thanks for the heads up
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#5 Sidestreet

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Posted 03 July 2016 - 09:11 AM

It's OK.  Snopes is pretty good at vetting rumors but they don't get a free pass either.  There seems to be more deception, distortion, and outright fabrication on the internet than truth much of the time.  Major news networks constantly frame stories to push agendas.  Information outlets are concentrated into a very few hands.

 

The best we can do is maintain a skeptical eye and corroborate with multiple sources or primary documents.


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Posted 03 July 2016 - 09:37 AM

I'm beginning to think that maybe it's not important to try and 'keep up' with everything given they will represent it however they wish to in the end.

Illusions all around us impossible to decipher at times, designed to confuse, misdirect or simply keep you entertained while they pilfer the coffers and pass laws that restrict our freedoms more and more each passing day.
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Posted 03 July 2016 - 12:37 PM

Well, like other things of value, it just takes some effort to get hold of the truth.  It's a matter of what subject is worth pursuing and what, in the end, is of no importance


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Posted 03 July 2016 - 02:49 PM

 

The sage lets many things pass and is not duped.

~Some dead Chinese guy


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Posted 04 July 2016 - 08:56 AM

I think this explains things...

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Posted 04 July 2016 - 09:25 AM

Right?  People whose wives are under investigation don't just get private meetings with prosecutors... unless they're heads of state.

 

I remember when Bill showed up at a polling place during an early primary... not cool.  This looks much, much worse.


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Posted 04 July 2016 - 09:31 AM

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#12 August West

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Posted 04 July 2016 - 10:06 AM

Person with low voter IQ: : Give me something that says I would refuse to send help to four American heroes, as they fought 13 straight hours for their lives, and then lie about it.

 

Barber: How 'bout I give you something that says, I have intimate knowledge of an operation where weapons were being run through something set up to look like an embassy in the recently and conveniently destroyed country of Libya into the hands of our secretly trained and supported proxy armies in Syria many of whom have since risen up under the auspices of 'ISIS'?


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Posted 04 July 2016 - 02:35 PM

Okaaay.. both things are true. But not sue how the second one applies to Clinton bodies per say, albeit, I'm sure this operation produced many bodies...

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Posted 04 July 2016 - 04:06 PM

Hillary supported the bombing of Libya - strongly.

 

I thought it was all about the (alleged) initiation of the African Central Bank. Had no idea that arms were being run through the "embassy" as proposed. 

 

Ghaddafi (sp?) supposedly had the gold reserves necessary to propose a value-backed banking system. Allegedly, he was tempting fellow African nations with this idea. Hillary Clinton baited the family into "diplomatic relations" and then hung them out to dry. Ergo the quote - "We came, we saw, he died" 

 

I had no clue about the use of an embassy as a shipping port for arms. But I stand to be edumacated. To the search engines Batman!


Edited by Myc, 04 July 2016 - 04:07 PM.

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Posted 04 July 2016 - 06:07 PM

Okaaay.. both things are true. But not sue how the second one applies to Clinton bodies per say, albeit, I'm sure this operation produced many bodies...

 

 

 I wasn't really concerned about attempting to correlate it to 'Clinton bodies', per se.

 



Hillary supported the bombing of Libya - strongly.

 

I thought it was all about the (alleged) initiation of the African Central Bank. Had no idea that arms were being run through the "embassy" as proposed. 

 

Ghaddafi (sp?) supposedly had the gold reserves necessary to propose a value-backed banking system. Allegedly, he was tempting fellow African nations with this idea. Hillary Clinton baited the family into "diplomatic relations" and then hung them out to dry. Ergo the quote - "We came, we saw, he died" 

 

I had no clue about the use of an embassy as a shipping port for arms. But I stand to be edumacated. To the search engines Batman!

As you know, sir, you won't find anything definitive. It's up to you and your active literacy to do your level-best and come to your own conclusion. Also, I'm not insinuating 'Benghazi' wasn't about multiple issues.

 

Here's a jumping off point from the often interesting, Washingtons BlogPulitzer-Prize Winning Reporter Sy Hersh: Benghazi Is a HUGE Scandal … But Not For the Reason You Think (formatting, as is often the case is not worth my time. Click the highlight for the original version...which is also heavily sourced).

 

 

 

Pulitzer-Prize Winning Reporter Sy Hersh: Benghazi Is a HUGE Scandal … But Not For the Reason You Think


Beyond Partisan Politics: What Benghazi Is Really About

Pulitzer-prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh – who broke the stories of the Mai Lai massacre in Vietnam and the Iraq prison torture scandals, which rightfully disgraced the Nixon and Bush administrations’ war-fighting tactics – reported last week:

That’s the part you’ve heard about: failure to protect the personnel at the embassy.


 

In January, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report on the assault by a local militia in September 2012 on the American consulate and a nearby undercover CIA facility in Benghazi, which resulted in the death of the US ambassador, Christopher Stevens, and three others. The report’s criticism of the State Department for not providing adequate security at the consulate, and of the intelligence community for not alerting the US military to the presence of a CIA outpost in the area, received front-page coverage and revived animosities in Washington, with Republicans accusing Obama and Hillary Clinton of a cover-up.

 

But then Hersh breaks the deeper story wide open:

Hersh isn’t the first to report on this major scandal.


A highly classified annex to the report, not made public, described a secret agreement reached in early 2012 between the Obama and Erdoğan administrations. It pertained to the rat line. By the terms of the agreement, funding came from Turkey, as well as Saudi Arabia and Qatar; the CIA, with the support of MI6, was responsible for getting arms from Gaddafi’s arsenals into Syria. A number of front companies were set up in Libya, some under the cover of Australian entities. Retired American soldiers, who didn’t always know who was really employing them, were hired to manage procurement and shipping. The operation was run by David Petraeus, the CIA director who would soon resign when it became known he was having an affair with his biographer. (A spokesperson for Petraeus denied the operation ever took place.)

The operation had not been disclosed at the time it was set up to the congressional intelligence committees and the congressional leadership, as required by law since the 1970s. The involvement of MI6 enabled the CIA to evade the law by classifying the mission as a liaison operation. The former intelligence official explained that for years there has been a recognised exception in the law that permits the CIA not to report liaison activity to Congress, which would otherwise be owed a finding. (All proposed CIA covert operations must be described in a written document, known as a ‘finding’, submitted to the senior leadership of Congress for approval.) Distribution of the annex was limited to the staff aides who wrote the report and to the eight ranking members of Congress – the Democratic and Republican leaders of the House and Senate, and the Democratic and Republicans leaders on the House and Senate intelligence committees. This hardly constituted a genuine attempt at oversight: the eight leaders are not known to gather together to raise questions or discuss the secret information they receive.

The annex didn’t tell the whole story of what happened in Benghazi before the attack, nor did it explain why the American consulate was attacked. ‘The consulate’s only mission was to provide cover for the moving of arms,’ the former intelligence official, who has read the annex, said. ‘It had no real political role.’

We’ve extensively documented that the bigger story behind the murder of ambassador Chris Stevens at the Benghazi embassy in Libya is that the embassy was the center of U.S. efforts to arm jihadis in Syria who are trying to topple the Syrian government.

We’ve also noted that this is not a partisan issue … both parties greenlighted regime change in Syria years ago, and both parties have tried to cover up what was really going on in Benghazi.

Last August, CNN touched on the weapons smuggling aspect of Benghazi.

The Wall Street JournalTelegraph and other sources confirm that the US consulate in Benghazi wasmainly being used for a secret CIA operation.

They say that the State Department presence in Benghazi “provided diplomatic cover” for the previously hidden CIA mission. WND alleges that it was not a real consulate.  And former CIA officer Philip Giraldiconfirms:

Reuters notes that the CIA mission involved finding and repurchasing heavy weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals.


Benghazi has been described as a U.S. consulate, but it was not. It was an information office that had no diplomatic status. There was a small staff of actual State Department information officers plus local translators. The much larger CIA base was located in a separate building a mile away. It was protected by a not completely reliable local militia. Base management would have no say in the movement of the ambassador and would not be party to his plans, nor would it clear its own operations with the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli. In Benghazi, the CIA’s operating directive would have been focused on two objectives: monitoring the local al-Qaeda affiliate group, Ansar al-Sharia, and tracking down weapons liberated from Colonel Gaddafi’s arsenal. Staff consisted of CIA paramilitaries who were working in cooperation with the local militia. The ambassador would not be privy to operational details and would only know in general what the agency was up to. When the ambassador’s party was attacked, the paramilitaries at the CIA base came to the rescue before being driven back into their own compound, where two officers were subsequently killed in a mortar attack.

Retired Lt. General William Boykin said in January that Stevens was in Benghazi as part of an effort to arm the Syrian opposition:

Boykin said Stevens was “given a directive to support the Syrian rebels” and the State Department’s Special Mission Compound in Benghazi “would be the hub of that activity.”


More supposition was that he was now funneling guns to the rebel forces in Syria, using essentially the Turks to facilitate that. Was that occurring, (a), and if so, was it a legal covert action?

Business Insider reports that Stevens may have been linked with Syrian terrorists:

In other words, ambassador Stevens may have been a key player in deploying Libyan terrorists and arms to fight the Syrian government.


There’s growing evidence that U.S. agents—particularly murdered ambassador Chris Stevens—were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.

In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group—a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens’ life.

In November 2011 The Telegraph reported that Belhadj, acting as head of the Tripoli Military Council, “met with Free Syrian Army [FSA] leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey” in an effort by the new Libyan government to provide money and weapons to the growing insurgency in Syria.

Last month The Times of London reported that a Libyan ship “carrying the largest consignment of weapons for Syria … has docked in Turkey.” The shipment reportedly weighed 400 tons and included SA-7 surface-to-air anti-craft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades.

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Reuters reports that Syrian rebels have been using those heavy weapons to shoot downSyrian helicopters and fighter jets.

The ship’s captain was “a Libyan from Benghazi and the head of an organization called the Libyan National Council for Relief and Support,” which was presumably established by the new government.

That means that Ambassador Stevens had only one person—Belhadj—between himself and the Benghazi man who brought heavy weapons to Syria.

Furthermore, we know that jihadists are the best fighters in the Syrian opposition, but where did they come from?

Last week The Telegraph reported that a FSA commander called them “Libyans” when he explained that the FSA doesn’t “want these extremist people here.”

And if the new Libyan government was sending seasoned Islamic fighters and 400 tons of heavy weapons to Syria through a port in southern Turkey—a deal brokered by Stevens’ primary Libyan contact during the Libyan revolution—then the governments of Turkey and the U.S. surely knew about it.

Furthermore there was a CIA post in Benghazi, located 1.2 miles from the U.S. consulate, used as “a base for, among other things, collecting information on the proliferation of weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals, including surface-to-air missiles” … and that its security features “were more advanced than those at rented villa where Stevens died.”

And we know that the CIA has been funneling weapons to the rebels in southern Turkey. The question is whether the CIA has been involved in handing out the heavy weapons from Libya.

Other sources also discuss that the U.S. consulate in Benghazi as mainly being used as a CIA operation to ship fighters and arms to Syria.

Many have speculated that – if normal security measures weren’t taken to protect the Benghazi consulate or to rescue ambassador Stevens – it was because the CIA was trying to keep an extremely low profile to protect its cover of being a normal State Department operation.

That is what I think really happened at Benghazi.


Was CIA Chief David Petraeus’ Firing Due to Benghazi?

CIA boss David Petraeus suddenly resigned, admitting to an affair. But Petraeus was scheduled to testify under oath the next week before power House and Senate committees regarding the Benghazi consulate.Many speculate that it wasn’t an affair – but the desire to avoid testifying on Benghazi – which was the real reason for Petraeus’ sudden resignation.  And see this.


Edited by August West, 04 July 2016 - 06:26 PM.

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Posted 04 July 2016 - 07:57 PM

Can a person become President with out having blood on their hands?


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Posted 04 July 2016 - 08:08 PM

Anything is possible. 


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Posted 04 July 2016 - 09:05 PM

Man, how many rabbit holes have the Clintons dug?

Thanks August, as myc said I guess it's more research.

Edited by SteampunkScientist, 04 July 2016 - 09:07 PM.

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Posted 04 July 2016 - 11:25 PM

Man, how many rabbit holes have the Clintons dug?

 

As an aside, just for some paranoid fun...

 

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

 

warren:

(also rabbit warren)

A network of interconnecting rabbit burrows.

 

I forget, what was the name of the commission that studied the JFK assassination?


Edited by August West, 04 July 2016 - 11:27 PM.

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Posted 04 July 2016 - 11:44 PM

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