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#41 Gnomesayin

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 03:50 AM

Some kratom porn after a bath.
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Rifat 1:
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Rifat 2:
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BB 1:
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HAPPY GNOME GREENHOUSE
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Gnome appologizes for the sideway pictures. Seems no matter how it's edited it uploads sideways from my phone..

 

seedling updates to come.

 

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 10:55 AM

the plants i thought might have been kratom ended up being some kind of sedum

 

see if you can get an exif or metadata stripper for your phone, pictures store the old

versions on their metadata and this site always uploads the first version. if you can 

delete the exif data, then it will upload properly. 


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Posted 11 February 2017 - 02:41 AM

Since this thread is intended for information aswell as my own discoveries through my grow log i wanted to share some fascinating articles on kratom extractions and isolations.

 

https://d3n8a8pro7vh....pdf?1443496612

 

http://www.ukm.my/mjas/v15_n1/Goh.pdf

 

http://www.supercrit...a-Speciosa1.pdf

 

Oh and here's a pic of my super green Malaysian pumping out some serious leaves!

 

 

 

 

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 07:59 AM

Here's some intersting info on how magnesium can help Kratom users on a couple different levels:
https://www.reddit.c...is_your_friend/


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Posted 12 February 2017 - 06:35 PM

Here's an idle question, since I find myself without a gram scale atm, I've been using finely crushed leaf, not powder, to make my tea, but not sure how many grams that might equal per level tablespoon. I ordered maeng da thai red and white vein online. I make my tea by boiling 4 tbs of red vein and 2 tbs of white vein, boil in about 2 or 3 cups of water with the juice of 1/2 lime or sometimes lemon if that's all I have (I love limes). 15 to 20 min on lowest boil, squeeze through a coffee filter and repeat with another 2 cups water and lime. The second boil I add a large pinch of a nice spiced rooibos tea blend for additional flavor, sweeten and drink about a third of the final product as a single dose. About how many grams do you guys think I'm using, roughly?

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 09:25 AM

I just love watching these things grow! Beautiful.

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 10:08 PM

Here's an idle question, since I find myself without a gram scale atm, I've been using finely crushed leaf, not powder, to make my tea, but not sure how many grams that might equal per level tablespoon. I ordered maeng da thai red and white vein online. I make my tea by boiling 4 tbs of red vein and 2 tbs of white vein, boil in about 2 or 3 cups of water with the juice of 1/2 lime or sometimes lemon if that's all I have (I love limes). 15 to 20 min on lowest boil, squeeze through a coffee filter and repeat with another 2 cups water and lime. The second boil I add a large pinch of a nice spiced rooibos tea blend for additional flavor, sweeten and drink about a third of the final product as a single dose. About how many grams do you guys think I'm using, roughly?

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Hey @bozefonce sorry for the delayed reply. I just got a chance to get my scale out. So I weighed a level tbs a couple times with my crushed leaf, it weighed 2.8 to 3.7 grams. When I did the same with the powdered. Using a kitchen measuring tablespoon and a knife to make level as you would with flour. This would weigh 6.4 to 8.2 grams. So the variations on weight's with just how finely crushed your leaf is hard to say. Possibly 5 grams per tablespoon?


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Posted 27 February 2017 - 02:11 AM

So unfortunately the fourth group of new transplants and most of third round of transplants didn't make it.

 

I've been battling gnats most of the winter. And took a drastic attempt to help reduce the sheer numbers of them in the house.. I allowed my plants to go a tad too long without a watering a few weeks back. And didn't report til now because I wanted to see how many would restabilise 32 healthy seedlings remain. 28 of which were the more established seedlings from the first 2 rounds of seedlings remain.

 

They fill the tub more each time!

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Removed greenhouse top shelf for more room

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Some vein colors

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Survived the drought

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 05:05 AM

Gnome, do you know if gnats are sensitive to fenoxycarb? (what kind of knats are they again?)

I'm assuming your greenhouse is reasonably airtight. Next time dont let your plants suffer, get a flea bomb (but disconnect power first, those things can spark...)


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Posted 01 March 2017 - 04:56 AM

Gnome, do you know if gnats are sensitive to fenoxycarb? (what kind of knats are they again?)

I'm assuming your greenhouse is reasonably airtight. Next time dont let your plants suffer, get a flea bomb (but disconnect power first, those things can spark...)

 

I am not sure. I've tried everything to rid these pests. From DE top soil, neem oil, organic insecticide soaps, I infuse my humidifier with rosemary oil, and I've used mosquito dunk baths. It seems that I have to rotate constantly these above treating methods simply to keep the numbers down.

 

Last fall my cacti were suffering from the same gnats (I assume fungus gnats as they thoroughly enjoy the greenhouses hot humid conditions and multiply by the hundreds each day..) when I finally put them to sleep for the winter and stopped watering and hardened off the seedlings from humidity domes. That finally ridded the little shits. If only for a couple months.

 

They have come back full force in the kratom greenhouse since November or so. Currently I have them controlled with the last mosquito dunk bath and haven't seen much flying around.

 

They just generally seem to be a winter time houseplant nuisance. Talking with other kratom cultivators they too struggle with fungus gnats and spider mites when the kratom comes indoors for winter. But soon as spring hits and they go outside. Mother nature seems to balance things out.



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 06:44 AM

Fenoxycarb, from what I have been able to gather, doesn't kill them. It just stops them developing from larvae into reproductive adults. So... the numbers kind of just fade away.

The "contact killer" in flea bombs, if there is one, is usually a pyrethroid.

Would it be worth a shot, I suppose yes because they're causing "inter-generational trauma". Maybe do a test run.


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Posted 03 March 2017 - 10:11 AM

 

Here's an idle question, since I find myself without a gram scale atm, I've been using finely crushed leaf, not powder, to make my tea, but not sure how many grams that might equal per level tablespoon. I ordered maeng da thai red and white vein online. I make my tea by boiling 4 tbs of red vein and 2 tbs of white vein, boil in about 2 or 3 cups of water with the juice of 1/2 lime or sometimes lemon if that's all I have (I love limes). 15 to 20 min on lowest boil, squeeze through a coffee filter and repeat with another 2 cups water and lime. The second boil I add a large pinch of a nice spiced rooibos tea blend for additional flavor, sweeten and drink about a third of the final product as a single dose. About how many grams do you guys think I'm using, roughly?

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Hey @bozefonce sorry for the delayed reply. I just got a chance to get my scale out. So I weighed a level tbs a couple times with my crushed leaf, it weighed 2.8 to 3.7 grams. When I did the same with the powdered. Using a kitchen measuring tablespoon and a knife to make level as you would with flour. This would weigh 6.4 to 8.2 grams. So the variations on weight's with just how finely crushed your leaf is hard to say. Possibly 5 grams per tablespoon?

 

Hey, thanks for taking some time to help me out with this. I think the crushed leaf numbers are closer to my situation than the powder. I'd say about 3.2 g per tablespoon is a good working number so with this product I've been drinking on the order of 6+ grams per dose if my math isn't too far off.


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Posted 05 March 2017 - 08:35 AM

I'm considering getting a poly tunnel for some of the more 'peculiar' things I grow... Do you think Kratom would like it? Being able to control humidity, etc...


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 03:09 AM

I'm considering getting a poly tunnel for some of the more 'peculiar' things I grow... Do you think Kratom would like it? Being able to control humidity, etc...

 

Yes I think a poly tunnel would help them out with extra warmth and humidity. Maybe even allow you to get them outside a few weeks earlier with frost protection. For this season I intend on housing them in a cheap pop up greenhouse shown below.

 

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this should suite my needs for this season until I figure out where ill be building my more "long term" greenhouse.

 

 

Picture updates to come soon.

 

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 04:06 AM

 

I'm considering getting a poly tunnel for some of the more 'peculiar' things I grow... Do you think Kratom would like it? Being able to control humidity, etc...

 

Yes I think a poly tunnel would help them out with extra warmth and humidity. Maybe even allow you to get them outside a few weeks earlier with frost protection. For this season I intend on housing them in a cheap pop up greenhouse shown below.

Blessings, Gnomesayin?!

 

Yes I was thinking of something similar (and for similar reasons). and also for taking cuttings and germinating seeds. And for growing (gasp) veggies.


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 01:32 AM

I'm really excited for this new growth on the Super Green Malaysian strain. Shes finally pushing out the first set of branch nodes along with a new set of leaves.
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The greenhouse is starting to look like a South East Asian rainforest! They're really in full force growth mode!
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I transplanted my established seedlings into some larger pots so they can spread their roots and be ready to take off when it's time to go outside this year.
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That last pic the one in the middle there is still recovering from the drought. I have faith shell pull around though.

My clones are branching like crazy, so I intend on trying my hand at cloning next day I find some extra time to spend with them.

Blessings, Gnomesayin?!

 

*Updated for higher quality pictures.


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Posted 24 March 2017 - 01:23 AM

Gnome just wanted to share just how prolific of growers these trees are. Here's pictures of my clones and their progress to date from last September. And my seedlings too.

Eager to get these babies outside! The greenhouse has filled up quick!

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Filled the greenhouse. IMG_20170323_094400.jpg

Full bath tub. IMG_20170323_084120.jpg

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