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#1 Ferather

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 12:38 PM

Quick guide for understanding mycelium

 

Step 1: Understanding the basics. Mycelium like all other carbon based life forms require nutrients, energy and water.
Secondly they require the correct growing conditions, such as temperature, humidity, light and darkness.
 
Step 2: Understanding energy. Mycelium receives and stores energy from Carbon, Hydrogen and Oxygen sources.
The ability to digest and obtain the required elements can be genetic, or require third party action.
 
Step 3: Understanding water content. Fruit body's generally have 90% water content.
However 90-95% substrate water content attracts mold, 75-80% is the max.
 
 
 
Nutrients needed by mycelium (General)
 
Note: Mycelium produce vitamin D from light sources.
 
Micro nutrients - Sodium, Calcium, Iron, Zinc, Copper, Manganese, Iodine, Selenium, Chromium, Sulphur, Boron, Molybdenum.
 
Vitamins - Vitamin D, Thiamin, Riboflavin, Niacin, Vitamin B6, Folate, Pantothenic Acid, Biotin, Ascorbic Acid.
 
Macro nutrients - Nitrogen, Magnesium, Phosphorus, Potassium.
 
Energy - Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen.
 
 
Enrichment recipe
 
2.5g > Miracle-Gro® Plant Food.
2.5g > Yeast Nutrients.
500g > Hot Water.
 
2 x Tea bags.
 
Steep the tea bags for 10 minutes in boiled hot water using a fork.
Remove the tea bags and add the additives, now mix well.

 

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Results

 

Here I did the enrichment tek to paper pellets, no other additives.

In this case the substrate is starch and sugar free.

 

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 06:21 PM

Makes me wonder if you could just crush some multivitamins and add em to the sub

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 08:31 PM

Ferather: so how did you apply the nuitrient solution to your substrate and did you do so more than once? mjroom.



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Posted 09 January 2017 - 10:37 PM

Why Miracle Gro? Could you not find something more politicaly correct? Something organic at least to get you the same results? You might get the same question from other members too..... but how is this any better than without the MG supplementation? Have you any side by sides with the same growing conditions minus the MG and other stuff as a contol sample? I have used Miracle Gro before with controls, and can't say it gave me any better results even though it worked. Yes you can add Miracle Gro and have mushrooms, my question is why would I want to use MG in my mushrooms when I can grow mushrooms without it(preferably) Did you get better flushes from using it in comparison to the same parameters without it? We're the mushrooms more healthier for you using it. I mean I won't use it in my plants, I am curious to why I would want want to use it on my shrooms other than sheer experimentation.
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:25 PM

I'm using MG because of the listed nutrients, combined with yeast nutrient to provide a full complex of nutrients, whilst using paper pellets as the energy source. I have used this tek for 2 years with almost no fail.

Yield and colour intensity improved, also the mushrooms preserved much better with a much longer shelf life than normal. The reason I'm not using grains is because of the contamination issues.

 

This tek can be made with little to no pasteurization, and can be assembled open air without infection, much like coco coir. Restricted by energy source (plant fiber).

Current yield is 75 - 100%, which is 1.8kg+ fresh from 2.4kg total substrate weight, with an average of 300g per cluster.

 

The paper pellets can also be used as spawn, consider it like grain but instead of starch it's plant fiber.

 

 

Here is some Tarragon oyster colonizing the tek, with added tea waste.

 

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:27 PM

Without the added nutrients, paper pellets take several months to colonize, and generate low yield.



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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:38 PM

Without the added nutrients, paper pellets take several months to colonize, and generate low yield.

 

I've had oyster (and other non-actives) colonize an entire newspaper (no supplements) in ~2weeks. Several months of  colonization with those un-doctored pellets doesn't sound right at all. Will you detail your hydration, pasteurization and any other pellet prep in greater detail please? I'll save my anti-miracle-gro rant for another time :biggrin: .


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#8 Ferather

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:55 PM

Well I'm doing 80% water content, which is 100g pellets + 400g of water. This is for better water control for my 90% water content fruits.

My comparison is based on this, the water content reduces the already weak ratio of nutrients, countered by additives.

 

I get the same 2 weeks colonization on 80% water content enriched. Pet pellets also have a higher pH.

I also live in a hard water area, my water pH also effects the speed and strength of growth.

 

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:58 PM

Your substrate looks like it will support growth. If your not using grains then what do you use for spawn?
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 01:16 PM

Without the added nutrients, paper pellets take several months to colonize, and generate low yield.

 

I'd bet dollars to donuts that if you pressed all the excess moisture out of that paper and then fluffed it up real nice that you'd see much faster colonization times and would be able to ditch almost all of the extra nutrients.



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Posted 10 January 2017 - 01:31 PM

Spawn to agar, Here is agar to enriched teabag to start my current Tarragon grow (Above).

 

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 01:37 PM

 

Without the added nutrients, paper pellets take several months to colonize, and generate low yield.

 

I'd bet dollars to donuts that if you pressed all the excess moisture out of that paper and then fluffed it up real nice that you'd see much faster colonization times and would be able to ditch almost all of the extra nutrients.

 

 

Results are the same in comparison as to un-supplimented wood pellets vs supplimented. Works without and lower water content, but less total yield.



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Posted 12 January 2017 - 04:06 PM

Feel free to adjust the recipe to suit your needs, especially if you are using different brands. As mentioned my water pH is quite high.

So I suggest making smaller samples to start with, adjust if needed, and then move onto larger full sized substrates.

 

Left, added grain flour. Right, my recipe. Both 3 days.

 

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 05:57 PM

Here is a single Golden oyster tuber. Minimum humidity and light.

Using a foldable crate and clear bin bag, lots of slots.

 

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:25 PM

Feel free to adjust the recipe to suit your needs, especially if you are using different brands. As mentioned my water pH is quite high.

So I suggest making smaller samples to start with, adjust if needed, and then move onto larger full sized substrates.

 

Left, added grain flour. Right, my recipe. Both 3 days.

 

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I have learned that if you run water through a standard Brita water filter it will remove enough solids to lower the waters ph from between a point and a point and a half.Hope this may be of interest to you or to other readers. mjroom.



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Posted 12 January 2017 - 09:50 PM

Here is a single Golden oyster tuber. Minimum humidity and light.
Using a foldable crate and clear bin bag, lots of slots.
 
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That's a nice tray of golden oyster fruits. looks like your oyster tech is happening. Pretty cool that you get them going from a agar knocked tea bag.....
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Posted 13 January 2017 - 11:49 AM

Spent tea is more like a very rich sawdust in a paper bag, so rich that adding it to a wood substrate increases total yield.

It can also be used to germinate spores (including mold) by tapping a cap over them, with high success.

 

It can also be used to overcome some bacteria and yeast in grain spawn.

 

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 11:44 PM

I just tried this on a uses green tea bag fresh out of the pot and cooled with a dusting from a P. Ovoid print. have the bag/spores in a small plastic tote with some holes covered with paper medical tape to act as a filter for FAE. What king of time frame with this method? Is it on par time wise with agar gemination? Thanks for posting this. mjroom.



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Posted 14 January 2017 - 10:12 AM

About 4-7 days. Although I have never tried it on green tea, I doubt there will be much of a difference as long as it is spent first.



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Posted 14 January 2017 - 03:37 PM

About 4-7 days. Although I have never tried it on green tea, I doubt there will be much of a difference as long as it is spent first.

I had a mister bottle full of the fertilizer that I made up for this so I misted all my egg carton on which I am growing out mycelium. should be easy to see how the growth improves.

 

Ferather: you said referring to spent tea bags "It can also be used to overcome some bacteria and yeast in grain spawn." Could you elaborate on this? Also is the cinnamon you use in your tea tek the regular cinnamon I put on my oats for breakfast? Thanks mjroom.


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