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#21 Ferather

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 04:10 PM

I tried cinnamon once, I take you found that on the other forum xD. Never got around to testing it properly, its very strong stuff.

The two types of bacteria we want to control the most is "Bacillus cereus" and "Pseudomonas", links to Wikipedia.

 

Check the bottom of my TGF-Tek post, here is more data: Bacillus cereus and Pseudomonas.



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Posted 14 January 2017 - 04:20 PM

As a side note the experiment listed about did pH 7, which was a bad test. In their write up the antibacterial potency dropped after 24 hours.

This is because the antibacterial agents breakdown above pH 6. Mycelium prefer pH 5.5 - 6.5, so its works very well at pH 6.



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Posted 14 January 2017 - 06:52 PM



What are you basing (pun intended) these ph numbers on if you don't mind me asking?

Edited by catattack, 14 January 2017 - 06:53 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2017 - 10:42 AM

Which set of numbers cat? The tea extracts or the mycelium?



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Posted 15 January 2017 - 10:48 AM

Which set of numbers cat? The tea extracts or the mycelium?

 

The preferred pH for mycelium. The numbers that you posted seem fine except that they're also ideal for trich mycelium. I shoot for 7-7.5 pH for cube myc.



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Posted 15 January 2017 - 11:44 AM

Indeed, Trich does not germinate above pH 7.5, which is why straw should be lime bathed, a good reason to lime wood.

 

Additionally with the correct amount of nutrients mycelium jump from a lower pH to a higher pH.

This will increase the colonization speed and it should consolidate as it grows out.

 

You will notice my WL-Tek does not use tea which lowers pH.



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Posted 15 January 2017 - 11:50 AM

. Mycelium prefer pH 5.5 - 6.5,

 

I'm just asking where you landed on these? :biggrin:



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Posted 15 January 2017 - 12:08 PM

Optimization of oyster (Pleurotus ostreatus) mushroom cultivation: "Highest yield is observed at pH 7 even though there is no significant difference at the pH 6-8.

However, the biological efficiency, biological yield were increased with the increase of pH levels up to 5.04 and then decreased." -- Source

 

Written slightly wrong, they mean pH 5.04 then back up to pH 7. However Clitocybe geotropa prefers pH 5.0 - 6 for fruiting.

 

I went a bit general for a larger variation of gourmet species and strains.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:18 AM

Here are some alternatives to MG, they are a bit hard to find with listed nutrients. Both still need yeast nutrient in addition.

I am not sure about the company's but they contain the nutrients we need, and will work in replacement.

 

Westland: Grow-Sure, Bayer Garden: Phostrogen. Cheaper store brands may also work.



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Posted 20 January 2017 - 09:53 AM

Here I tested the enriched fluids, 1 part to 2 parts water, 3 parts total, on a dying cacti and a normal one.

The dying one is no longer dying and growing out, the normal one is growing out much faster.

 

This is due to the extra nutrients not available in the plant food alone.

 

Left, Was dying. Right, the normal one.

 

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 09:12 AM

Awesome...........personally I don't want to get into (or see) the MG combat again but I am dedicated to staying away from rotting grains (that's a completely personal choice not advice to anyone)...........so to me enriched pellets and recycled papers, huge piles of saw dusts are available too, along with easily gathered woody stems, as in the huge local plots of Japanese Knotweed, are all attractive potential substrates. Knotweed patches look like steamy soft wood jungles in the summer time and I've read that there are interesting compounds in the roots (specifically in reference to treatments for Lyme Disease). This might just be Arathu's year of the Oyster mushroom too........... thanks Ferather.

 

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 09:14 AM

Spawn to agar, Here is agar to enriched teabag to start my current Tarragon grow (Above).

 

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Inspiring stuff........to me there is just something awesome about fungal lightning...............  :cool: 






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