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I have several cakes that have not fruited :(


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#1 Dilatedpupils

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 06:03 PM

It's been about 4 weeks since I seen full colonization in jar and birthed I have since then commenced to a second flush on some but there's a handful that never fruited is this normal or should I trash em?

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 07:09 PM

I do not know about "cakes" but I can tell you that The " cakes"  that have been "birthed" , could and should be crumbled and added to some pasteurized dung of some sort.  If you can not get your hand on some kind of dung worthy of mushroom

cultivation you can use straw. You will like the results  much more. And it will be more satisfying as well. Try it !!


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Posted 09 January 2017 - 07:41 PM

I would dunk the cakes and see if they will put out any fruits, as long as they look healthy; otherwise, I would toss them out.



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Posted 10 January 2017 - 09:35 AM

I'd hate to get rid of them I think they still look healthy lemme put up a pick...maybe it's not to late to crumble and bulk

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 09:37 AM

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 09:38 AM

Can anyone explain the white tips??????5a1c35fe73bab2166a201f2c579cad62.jpg

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:07 PM

Can anyone explain the white tips??????5a1c35fe73bab2166a201f2c579cad62.jpg

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It's just mycelium. Relax, you got this. :biggrin:


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#8 Dilatedpupils

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:12 PM

:) that kat this is such a patient requiring hobby lol

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:22 PM

Thou shalt learn patience to the extreme.....submit now and release all notions of impatience........................wood is measured in years.......... :biggrin:

 

In the past, if I must meddle (while I usually did and not for the better) then I ask the stubborn one directly.......like make a slice in one or isolate, or temp change, or stash and forget.........?????

 

You are not alone in the quest to understand.................


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:55 PM

You will notice how those pin heads arise from not vermiculite but from mycelium masses No? That should tell you forget having that around except for planting mixes an whatnot. Waste of time and classic misdirection.  My life says somebody says NO

to that right away, but you have pictures!!



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Posted 10 January 2017 - 06:01 PM

hey dilated that tray with coir...It looks dry from my angle


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:06 PM

You will notice how those pin heads arise from not vermiculite but from mycelium masses No? That should tell you forget having that around except for planting mixes an whatnot. Waste of time and classic misdirection.  My life says somebody says NO
to that right away, but you have pictures!!


Are you saying vermiculite has no usefulness in mushroom cultivation? Or did I read that wrong?
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:26 PM

Vermiculite is by far the best water reservoir in this hobby.  It is great for mixing into subs, using as a casing material, and making PF cakes.

 

You can grow a pretty nice crop with nothing but grain and vermiculite.

 

So it's definitely not a waste of time.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:30 PM

Vermiculite is by far the best water reservoir in this hobby.  It is great for mixing into subs, using as a casing material, and making PF cakes.
 
You can grow a pretty nice crop with nothing but grain and vermiculite.
 
So it's definitely not a waste of time.


Well said, my friend.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 01:04 PM

They are growing rather slowly so i tend to mist them once a day and fan them for about 30 seconds .... the temp on them cakes are 69-73 degrees with a humidity that my reader tells at 99% with consistency.... that being said boys and girls this is my very very first grow and I have to tell you that crumbling two cakes and mixing them in Coir (although I got some contamination ) has yield more, and very massive mushies....this being said all my other grows will be bulk

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:20 PM

Once a day is generally not nearly enough. Personally, i would increase that to 4-5 times a day. I used to do it when i woke up, and every 4 hours til i went to sleep.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 07:20 PM

You will notice how those pin heads arise from not vermiculite but from mycelium masses No? That should tell you forget having that around except for planting mixes an whatnot. Waste of time and classic misdirection. My life says somebody says NO
to that right away, but you have pictures!!


Hell, when I fruit a cake I'll put it in a tupperware with moist vermiculite which is a double end casing on steroids. I've removed the cake and the colonized vermiculite has fruited!

There is empirical visual evidence on this site that support our claims.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:36 PM

Once a day is generally not nearly enough. Personally, i would increase that to 4-5 times a day. I used to do it when i woke up, and every 4 hours til i went to sleep.

Wait the mist down or the fanning?

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:43 PM

I fan just enough to exchange the air in the chamber, while misting above to add humidity, vapor, not water drops, to the air.

 

Too much fanning will lower humidity drastically and dry out the grow.


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:35 PM

missed something...don't need it. waste of time...whatnot  could mean anything. crumble cakes into a tray or us it as spawn . now  vermiculite can be used

as a casing or just about anything.  DO NOT NEED.  Why  use cakes when trays are so much better and you can get by without it? Besides there are all kinds of mixes

with vermiculite in it. why reinvent the wheel?






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